Buck Radius Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 I need some help here. What is the best way to cut the 15 degree angle for the angled headstock. I tried the backsaw but it (I) was not acurate enough. How do you guys do it? What tools do you use? Please respond soon as I am dying to get this part done. Buck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Personally, i use one of these: Ultimate tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz tradie Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Personally, i use one of these: Ultimate tool Yep , I've used that tool before many times and it always works really well for me. It's also free. This is the 'real' secret weapon to learning . O.K.........I did a quick search for you. Here's but a fraction of what you''ll find using the 'ultimate tool'. linky 1 linky 2 cheers, Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 I use the router jig method. It is not a perfected method since it is not 100% practical yet, but it provides extremely accurate scarf joints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 I used to use the router jig, and now I just use a hand saw then clean up with a sharp plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VesQ Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 I cutted headstock angle in my Les Paul with table saw. I didn´t make jigs of anykind. Just clamped some piece of wood as a guide. I´ve done also few practise cuts with japanese saw but the results weren´t so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Personally, i use one of these: Ultimate tool Yep , I've used that tool before many times and it always works really well for me. It's also free. This is the 'real' secret weapon to learning . O.K.........I did a quick search for you. Here's but a fraction of what you''ll find using the 'ultimate tool'. linky 1 linky 2 cheers, Stu First link is a great source. Kathy has a great web site-Link with lots of great ideas and plans. Now if I could only get my shop to look as clean and well put together as hers I would be in great shape. I use my sliding compound miter saw to cut my scarfs. Always seemed to work pretty slick. Peace,Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sorbera Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 I used to use the router jig, and now I just use a hand saw then clean up with a sharp plane. +1 I have recently discovered the joy of using hand tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobz Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Eazy Peazey These are mandolin necks I`m preparing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Radius Posted April 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Dear Rhoads56, Unfortunately, your attempt at advice was of little help. Thankfully, many of the subsequent responders were very helpful. You might reflect on just why you post on this site. Is it to help others, or to make yourself feel superior to others? I had already conducted several searches, but what I was looking for were the personal experiences of members who had been successful. I understand that you are a fine builder and are very experienced, but I'm sure you started from scratch just like the rest of us. Perhaps I'm over-reacting, but again, perhaps you shouldn't respond to a post if you really have nothing substantive to add. Regards, Buck Radius P.S. Once again, if I'm off base, I apologize. And I do very much like your transparent blue GS model. Personally, i use one of these: Ultimate tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 This thread is discussed many times per month. Use the search, there is nothing new in this thread at all. The fact you added "Please respond soon as I am dying to get this part done" shows you are impatient, and that GENERALLY means you havent bothered researching. If you had, you would have had no reason to ask. I use the word GENERALLY, because once again, we see this type of urgent request several times per month, from people who havent bothered to look around. We can argue all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spazzyone Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Dear Rhoads56, Unfortunately, your attempt at advice was of little help. Thankfully, many of the subsequent responders were very helpful. You might reflect on just why you post on this site. Is it to help others, or to make yourself feel superior to others? i disagree his advice was very accurate and Perry loves to feel superior. therefore his post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Dear Rhoads56, Unfortunately, your attempt at advice was of little help. Thankfully, many of the subsequent responders were very helpful. You might reflect on just why you post on this site. Is it to help others, or to make yourself feel superior to others? i disagree his advice was very accurate and Perry loves to feel superior. therefore his post I dont need to make a post to feel superior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntinDoug Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Here is my setup... Some may call it cheating I don't know what I'd do without my mill. It's very quick & accurate: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer7440 Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Here is my setup... Some may call it cheating I don't know what I'd do without my mill. It's very quick & accurate: Heck yeah man! The mill rules! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenspoke Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 (edited) I need some help here. What is the best way to cut the 15 degree angle for the angled headstock. I tried the backsaw but it (I) was not acurate enough. How do you guys do it? What tools do you use? Please respond soon as I am dying to get this part done. Buck back to basics a hand saw and plane. A plane bigger than a block plane. sandwich the two together then plane them. The most important thing is a clean glue joint. If you are using figured wood it will be difficult, to not rip it up use a low angled plane. For me a table saw has no equal fast and fearless. Normally I bandsaw out my necks and do not joint the headstock. Always pros and cons to everything you do as you can tell. Woodenspoke Edited May 3, 2007 by Woodenspoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOAMdude Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 why not just make it one piece? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sorbera Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 why not just make it one piece? A scarf joint has less wasted wood, and a stronger joint because of the grain orientation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar2005 Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 why not just make it one piece? A scarf joint has less wasted wood, and a stronger joint because of the grain orientation. I do it on my miter saw with a 15" fence I made. Works great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Radius Posted May 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 (edited) I ended up using the table saw. It was nerve-wracking but turned out OK. I would like to build one of the router jigs but that is for the future. Thanks, Buck Edited May 9, 2007 by Buck Radius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP63 Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Building all the jigs will take time and patience. I used a hand saw and cleaned up the joint with a chisel and scraper. Once I was close to the mark, I grabbed the pieces and sanded them with a whole sheet of sandpaper against a perfectly flat surface. One hand held the paper, whilde the other slid the wood while maintaining alignment. Itrimmed the wood after the glue up. The joint was perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy88 Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 any ideas on how best to glue scarf joints? that angle seems to complicate things quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 http://www.setchellguitars.co.uk/ant/blog/?p=121 That's how I do it, and everyone who has tried it seems to like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biliousfrog Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 yes it works a treat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainzy Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Planing the headstock for scarfing or just smoothing the face on a one-piece neck, is the easiest task to do on a guitar with a hand plane in my opinion. If you're serious about woodworking, you can get away without them but you really should learn how to use hand planes properly and I think this is a great way to start, and I can't think of an easier or quicker method than breaking out a Stanley #4, #5 or their wider '1/2' counterparts and planing away on that headstock join - an added bonus is there's 0% chance you'll lop one of your fingertips off in the process, and the shavings will be much easier to clean up than powersaw or router dust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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