fryovanni Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Here are a couple pics of a project I have been working on. I have been interested in moving to a lattice bracing config from my double X. I think the lattice is kinda complex to work out, but it seems to be tightening up the mids as I am looking for. Anyhow here is a pic or two. pic2 pic3 pic4 pic5 Peace,Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiKro Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 (edited) Here are a couple pics of a project I have been working on. I have been interested in moving to a lattice bracing config from my double X. I think the lattice is kinda complex to work out, but it seems to be tightening up the mids as I am looking for. Anyhow here is a pic or two. pic2 pic3 pic4 pic5 Peace,Rich Sweet looking Rich, BTW how are you going to approach the bridge plate or is the lattice supporting that as well? Mike Edited November 26, 2007 by MiKro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted November 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Mike, My bridge plates are very thin and sometimes I don't even use one(if I apply a coat of shellac). I don't need a bridge plate structurally with my bridge, that really only leaves the issue of shrinkage rates between the bridge wood and soundboard. My bridge design is pretty different than most, and it really changes the bracing requirements. Peace,Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carousel182 Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Wow very nice inlaying around the sound hole. Thats some intense bracing, how long have you been doing this for and how do you know where to put the bracing and in what design. the back of the soundboard is flat but the rim of the sides are rounded, I'm still a little confused with that part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmrentis Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Wow, thats really coming out well Rich. That inlay just blows me away, aside from being an amazing design of shell, the practically flawless inlay job is amazing. The partial overlapping of the design into the sound hole is awesome and to really seal the deal, that zircote is beautiful, I love the flecking at the bottom side edges, gives a cool effect. What are the plans for the binding? Are you adding any more shell to the top in the purfling? I'm excited to see this thing all finished and I bet moms is too. Keep us posted on the progress and best of luck, its really looking amazing. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbojerik Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Looking great Rich! The inlay is really classy, and Mmmmm....ziricote! How did the bending go with that "crackwood"? Also what's going on inside the rim? Are those clear tapes braces, or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Absolutely stunning! Makes me want to whip out my single set of Ziricote...and then go buy some more. Gotta love that Mexican Crack Wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooten2 Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Great work as always Rich! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted November 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 carousel182, I have been doing this for a while (about long enough to realise how much I don't know). You will figure out the radius thing, as soon as you start working on the bracing and sand the rim it will all make perfect sense . Jason, I am going for Lyptus binding with BWB lower purf, and will have shell purf around the board as well. Rose vine up the fretboard and a rose on the headstock. A lot of shell, but that is what my mom likes. Erik, Crackwood bends like butter. It splits like no other though. To ensure I had prevented any factures that I could not detect, I saturated the wood in CA (that is something we do outside ), and believe me there where little fractures I did not see. Then I surface sanded all the parts. The tape is binding tape soaked with HHG and placed about the sides to prevent or limit any potential crack migration. I figure this is a wood that you want to take no chances with if you want it to last. Mattia, Thanks my friend. I checked with David to see what he was using for his flying buttress reinforcements, and will be adding those before I close the box. Rims are going to be very rigid on this one. Lance, Thanks mister! Man, we should keep in touch more often. how have been? Peace,Rich P.S. I should point out that, I still have several little things I need to add before closing the box. Even that extra bit at the sounhole needs a little extra backing. I will post up a shot before I actually close it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 great work - gotta love the ziracote!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdw3332 Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Rich, that is just beautiful. Truly a piece of art. Great work. Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Beautiful work and excellent craftsmanship, keep up the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannoG Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Hi Rich, that's looking great. What sort of dimensions are the top braces? Maybe I can sneak up to Portland and see it when you get done/before you give it to your mom. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted December 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 That would be cool Dan! If I make a trip your direction I will remember to toss it in the back of the car. As far as the bracing dims. Starting with the top thickness, it is right at .100", The main X braces are 1/4" wide and 1/2" tall at the main X crossing. The Lattice is all 3/16" at the point of attachment and tapered as it gets taller, fingers are similar. The heights of the lattice vary quite a bit, I don't believe any of it is more than 3/16" at a peak, same with fingers. The only braces that are inlet are at the tips of the upper X braces, everything else tapers to nothing or a wisper of a brace. When I first attached the bracing my main X crossing was at 5/8", the lattice and fingers were at about 1/4". I carved from there till the board loosened up and had balance, then made a few more adjustments after attaching it to the rim. I will probably check and make any final adjustments right before I close the box. Peace,Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Just beautiful Rich. WOD even weeped a little when he saw it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGTR Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 I just love the inlay work, nice job. I am wondering about the lack of a bridge plate also. Do you use bridge pins or some other method to hold your stings down to the soundboard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted December 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 I just love the inlay work, nice job. I am wondering about the lack of a bridge plate also. Do you use bridge pins or some other method to hold your stings down to the soundboard? I am not super sharp with the inlay, but I try to take it slow and do the best I can. As far as my bridge, it is a pinnless design. Drak, Thanks mister, hopefully I won't give the WOD a reason to start giggle . Slow and steady, slow and steady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsilver Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Rich, I don't know squat about building acoutics, and not much about building electrics. But, I have always had a decent sense of aesthetics i.e. I know what I like. And I like this guitar very much. Form and function I suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Rich, that is one sweet guitar.I know mom will love it.One day I mite try to build a acoustic,I have a billit of spuce just waiting to be used.Your bracing is cool and I like the way it covers all areas,really solid.Looking forward to seeing your bridge system.I think you've done this for a little while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scab Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 any progress on this baby? I'm really interested in seeing how this turns out. I've seen a couple of lattice designs like this but not as pronounced.. How'd the thought come about using this (lattice bracing) rather than beefing up the lower face braces? Interesting carving on your x-brace.. L8er Scab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted January 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 I haven't updated in a while mainly because I have been busy and have not made much progress. Usually I spend a fair bit of time building over my Christmas break, this year I spent more time with the family. Here are a few pics. The box is closed, I have attached the binding, but have not scraped it clean. The neck is waiting for me to finish the inlay in the fret board, I don't finish my carving till after I attach the board. I was hoping to make headway after my break, but work has been getting busy, and time is really hit and miss. The Back Front of Box End (sorry it is not cleaned up) Back of headstock Front of headstock (I am pretty happy with the inlay) Scab, The Lattice interested me mainly because I wanted to see what I could do with it to focus my mids and also give me a little broader footprint with my braces. My braces may appear to cover a lot of ground, but much of what you are seeing is paper thin transitions. It took a bit of doing to get a nice even responce, but it got there. After I had the top attached it took a couple very small adjustments and it came back where I wanted it. Now that it is closed I am very excited (I think it has the best tapped responce I have ever built), and can't wait to hear it strung up. The odd carve is something that came about from my experience with my bridge design (it is a wrap around with a forward tail piece *oddest duck around LOL). Peace,Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmrentis Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 As per usual, just amazing work! As a whole that is going to be such an impressive guitar. The further I get along in my own work, the more and more I can appreciate the work of others. You guys always build such wicked guitars and they turn out so well, one might think building is easy. For example your back strap, wheew not that easy of a task in my opinion(when you have a volute), especially considering the thickness you have there in ebony. What was the thickness on that backstrap 2mm? Anyhow, it is truly impressive Rich. Are you going straight FP all around for this one? I think thats what you prefer for finish right? If so, what flavor of shellac do you prefer(color)? Well, best wishes and keep those pics rolling in. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted January 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Thanks Jason, You must be one of the nicest fellows around (always have nice comments). I can't remember specifically, but I believe the backstrap was close to .07" ( about 2mm). I probably will Zpoxy then French polish (I enjoy that process more than spraying), but if I am finding it very hard to get a good window of time I will spray laquer. I like the hint of warmth you get with very pale shellac. I generally try to buy the clearest I can get (if I want more color I can add a bit to tint). To me FP is very relaxing, because it is absolutely the most forgiving finish you can apply. If it goes south you can remove most of it or lightly sand and melt new shellac right ove the area (good as new). Peace,Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 what can i say... i want it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodWood Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 what can i say... i want it!! We are going to get some MP3's off this one,right???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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