Neck Hardware

[dalandser]

I'd like to make custom all access neck joint on a project guitar and I need to order this hardware:

http://watershedguitars.com/cart/index.php...amp;productId=4

Ed Roman also does it:

http://www.edroman.com/techarticles/NeckMountingMyths.htm

I've tried to find the parts on general hardware sites, but I'm not sure what the 'ferrules' and the 'threaded inserts' (socket cups?) are called. I know I could buy enough parts for a lot of guitars for the $25 that the one website is charging if I can find out what the parts are called so I can order them from a general hardware supplier. I figured this was an ok area to post this question since I saw a guy post a question about which glue to use for a neck.

Thank You,

Anthony

[Samba Pa Ti]

threaded inserts, machine screws, dunno what type of ferrules they are but on a strat you can just use a normal backplate, there are ferrules available if you dont want a backplate so maybe they are just them.

another kit here but its expensive > http://www.manchesterguitartech.co.uk/hardware.html

the parts are available on ebay for about $15

eg

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/M4-x-10mm-Un-Headed-...ET#ht_500wt_853

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WOOD-INSERTS-TYPE-D-...MJ#ht_522wt_836

finding the screws seems a bit harder

[SwedishLuthier]

The ferrules are available from Stewmac http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Hardware,_part...t=3&xsr=334

The neck inserts (whatever the generic name is in a hard ware store) should in fact be available at most low end hard ware stores including the screws. I use, and have always used stainless Steel screws, recessed M6 with Torx driver instead of the standard Philips driver. So I need to enlarge the hole in the ferrules a bit that is a quick job as I do them 20 at a time or so. Flip them up side down, hold the firmly with a locking plier and drill the hole a bit bigger.

[Mender]

I bought some of these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

and some of these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/M5-x-40-Socket-Butto...Nails_Fixing_MJ

and finally, some of these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...e=STRK:MEWNX:IT

They work extremely well, just as good as the expensive kits around. I recess the washers deep enough so the bolt heads don't protrude above the surface of the body. When a neck is fitted using that lot, it isn't going to move no matter how hard you treat the guitar

[dalandser]

Thanks a lot for the help. You guys saved me a lot of money considering I was thinking about doing this to 3 guitars. As far as being able to just use a regular backplate on a strat, this is of course 100% correct, but I'm going to test out my woodworking skills by making a custom aanj neck pocket on a garage sale Ibanez strat from the old square heel as well as another square heel - aanj conversion on a guitar I've been projjing on for awhile. I don't have long fingers and the new neck joints that Ibanez uses are really great for improving upper fret access. The only part that ibanez doesn't use from this kit was the threaded insert / machine screw combo as they just stick to the regular wood screw which works anyway, but I figured if I'm going to be drilling at least one new hole and have to be cutting down screw lengths, then it's worth just dowelling and gluing the holes and doing a little extra work. People seem to like this system. I'll give it a shot with reasonably priced parts.

Thank You,

Anthony

EDIT: I found the ferrules @ stewmac under hardware and the machine screws and threaded inserts at Lowe's (like Home Depot). The threaded inserts were in the sliding hardware bin marked "Furniture".

Edited August 26, 2010 by dalandser