NotYou Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 I'm mainly starting this because I'm facing a dilemma. I'm trying to finish this quickly, but I don't know what to do. My plan was to make this finish look similar to this: I began the rusting process and I like how it's turning out without the paint. I have a guy interested in buying it and he likes it too. I've never tried this kind of "finish" before (with the paint, that is; I've done the rust before) and since I like it how it is, I don't know if I want to risk it. If I leave it rust only, the hardware will black iron with light rust, so it'll match, but not be monotone looking. Here's how it looks right now: I did the body before glueing the neck for a few reasons due to the unusual finish. I don't want to get into that right now. I'm really just wanting some opinions on my dilemma. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 You've done the rust before - you can do it again. Have a crack at the paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotYou Posted August 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 (edited) You make a good point. I'm very curious to see how it'll turn out with the paint. Here's some photos from today: Edited August 29, 2010 by NotYou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliemc Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 Leav it as it is. Do another one with the blue-rusted-cast iron lampost look. agonising over it will just ruid the build for you, Trust me on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 It is awesome like it is... clear it and be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitone Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 I've used wax when doing multiple layers of paint on furniture. If you built up large sections of wax and paint over it, you can sand it down once it's dry. Or peel it back. Or use a heat gun. Whatever floats your boat. There's a lot more texture to the sample than the guitar. I am interested to see how it would look in the flat areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarter Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 It looks great! If time is short, save the flaking paint project for when you have more time to play with it. Nothing good ever comes when your trying to hurry things along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotYou Posted August 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 (edited) That's for the input everyone. I've made up my mind... I'm sort of doing both I'm going to leave it with just the rust, but I'm going to make the hardware match that tailpiece. If you look closely in that photo, there's some red paint that's worn away. I'm going to mimic that on the rest of the hardware and probably part of the neck as well (away from where you would touch). That will give it just a little bit of color, but it'll subtly give the impression of age and weathering. I might put a very little bit on the body too, but I haven't decided yet. I'll see how it comes out, then go from there. It took me a while, but I'm happy with that decision. My builds tend to move away from my normal plans a lot. One of the in-progress guitars on my site just go hollowed out and is getting a different top, even though it's always been planned as a solid body with no top. It didn't seem "right" to me. It took a while to realize it, though. Edited August 30, 2010 by NotYou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 This looks awesome. How are you going to seal it? It looks like it wants a little shellac to me. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotYou Posted August 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 This looks awesome. How are you going to seal it? It looks like it wants a little shellac to me. SR I never thought about using shellac on it, but that might actually look nice. It'd give the color a little more warmth. I have to coat with an acid blocking acrylic layer before I put on the "real" finish. The chemical that ultimately makes the rust is made with sulphuric acid and it'll eat through and yellow plastic finishes over time. I was just planning on using thin clear finish like a matte polyurethane. Just something to protect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotYou Posted August 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 Got a few new shots today: All of them I uploaded are here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 that tailpiece is BADASS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alloyguitar Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Okay, so I don't frequent this forum often, so forgive me if this is nothing new, but.. ...how in the hell did you do that?! I love it! If it's discussed in another thread, please direct my ignorant ass there. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalien21 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 oh man, yeah. that bridge is killer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Workingman Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 that tailpiece is BADASS! No I think its hand made For the younger ones here, back in the 70's Leo Quan made bridges with the trade name Badass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotYou Posted November 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) I haven't updated this in a longtime. I'm on my iPhone at my shop, so I'll keep this short for now. I can into detail later, if anybody wants. Here's some progress shots. The last one is a quick mockup taken this morning: http://img259.imageshack.us/i/imagelh.jpg/ http://img253.imageshack.us/i/imageyh.jpg/ http://img163.imageshack.us/i/imageilq.jpg/ If a mod could make those images for me I'd appreciate it. I'm on my phone and can't do it. Edited November 4, 2010 by MexicanBreed Phew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 You've apparently got to register and log in to see those... Please do add some details when you get a chance. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotYou Posted November 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 I changed the links. They might work now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 You know, I'm totally anti-relic as a rule. I mean, I try to keep guitars I've had for 25 years looking like brand new as much as I can... and the ones I've built definitely get their regular maintenance to keep them ship-shape. ...and you are like...SUPER MONDO relic-man. To the point of Relic Insanity... ...But I love the way this is coming out, you certainly have found your 'niche' without a doubt, and that is not an easy thing to do. It's definable as your work, it's very artistic, it's current, it's thought out, it's savvy. I just feel like when I put it down I'd need a can of WD-40 to wash the rust off of me. But I for one love it. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 ^^ I second that emotion............ but are u gonna rust up the bridge some?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotYou Posted November 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) Thanks, to both of you! (and thank you mexicanbreed for fixing my photos!) but are u gonna rust up the bridge some?? Here's a photo of the bridge up close. It used to be chrome, but a little chemestry fixed that. http://destroyallguitars.com/images/PfeisterRustyOct10-4.jpg Edited November 4, 2010 by NotYou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim37 Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 You know, I'm totally anti-relic as a rule. I mean, I try to keep guitars I've had for 25 years looking like brand new as much as I can... and the ones I've built definitely get their regular maintenance to keep them ship-shape. ...and you are like...SUPER MONDO relic-man. To the point of Relic Insanity... ...But I love the way this is coming out, you certainly have found your 'niche' without a doubt, and that is not an easy thing to do. It's definable as your work, it's very artistic, it's current, it's thought out, it's savvy. I just feel like when I put it down I'd need a can of WD-40 to wash the rust off of me. But I for one love it. B) I really dont consider what NotYou and Orgmorg do as relicing they may go through some of the process but i consider there work more of an expression of art than a simple relic job. btw really cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 I really dont consider what NotYou and Orgmorg do as relicing No,I would sat that this is a relic...making a brand new guitar look as if it is(in this case) 1000 years old is the very definition of a relic job...of course it is still art.Even John's corvus is technically art.Of course this is a bit more involved. Orgmorg's is not really relic-ing I think. ..those are themed guitars...a barnyard theme maybe? Both make cool guitars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim37 Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 yeah but to me when you say the term "reliced guitar" i am thinking of a guitar that is made to be passes off as a guitar that has years of play wear and road abuse to it where NotYou doesnt do that. he just makes it look old and rusty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 well..I would say it is like 100 steps past your standard SRV relic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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