ScottR Posted June 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 That is going to be amazing when it's done. Such a deep, rich color. I noticed the same with Z-poxy, it really has darkened up the surfaces that I've used it on, in particular on redwood burl. It made it a similarly dark, deep, and rich color. I've loved the effect so far, but I can see there might be situations where it would darken it too much... How did you use/apply the Z-Poxy when you used it? I've been using it kind of like tru-oil and it looks very similar. I's a little more involved to use and it doesn't flow out as well but it does act like an oil in terms of the depth and richness it adds. It has a bit of an oily feel and the amber color may have something to do with that I imagine. go radioactive diamond glow in the dark fookin mirror of the gods. That's more what I was thinking. SR Yes. Do that. Looking gorgeous. I can't wait to work with something quilted someday. Figured maple is awesome. I like being a little different so I was a little torn about using it....everyone uses it to the point of being overdone. But it is so cool, that everyone ought to use it at least once. Why miss out on the fun? SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattharris75 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 How did you use/apply the Z-Poxy when you used it? I've been using it kind of like tru-oil and it looks very similar. I's a little more involved to use and it doesn't flow out as well but it does act like an oil in terms of the depth and richness it adds. It has a bit of an oily feel and the amber color may have something to do with that I imagine. I applied it with a credit card. Wiped it across the grain. It worked OK, but required a bit more sanding afterwards than I would have liked. I may have to try wiping it on like tru oil. On one guitar, I cut the z-poxy 50/50 with denatured alcohol on the last coat to thin it out and have less work to do after that last coat. But that was after a couple of thick coats to fill the pores. If you look at the back of the bass that I just finished, all the amber color on that came from the z-poxy. The ash was a typical 'ash white' before the z-poxy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted June 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Dammit! So I've discovered over the last two builds that I'm becoming OCD at this stage. I've spent the last two weeks fiulling leveling recoating sanding tinting sanding leveling filling sanding leveling tinting sanding and on and on and on. I was sure I'd be spraying before the day was over, but I keep finding things I want to do first. I'm done filling. I'm nearly done leveling. I'm going to sand through at least one more grade on the body. I've got work to do on the neck to body transition. The woodworking part is fine even really good if I don't say so myself, but I've got to work on the burst and blend of color. During this process I've learned that you can tint Z-Poxy with alcohol based dye, even if it is cured. I'm going to re-airbrush the black burst onth the edges and barely into the top and back and neck join and touch up the blend on the neck to body join as needed....then spray nitro. It should only be a day or so away....I'll post the re-burst before srpaying. These shots will give you a pretty good idea of what this would look like in a satin finish. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mx5apex Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 looking awesome, get some finish on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullsession Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Gloss on front. Satin on back. I'll go warm up the tubes..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Looks like you and I both had one of those weekends... you know 8 hours in the shop of very necessary work but very little to show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Looks like you and I both had one of those weekends... you know 8 hours in the shop of very necessary work but very little to show. Exactly. It's very difficult to show what was done.....but if you didn't do it, it would stick out like a sore thumb. I lightly resprayed the black burst last night and just might get the first light coats of nitro on tonight. On another note, the claw marks are essentially invisible right now. There were even before I touched up the burst. I had gotten used to seeing them even to the point of beginning to like the "character" they added. This is my original color scheme plan; it wasn't developed to hide them, but the steps taken and the order of them were necessary to fill them without damaging the dye or leaving the interior of the gouges undyed. The clear coat will be like opening a window and being able to see everything going on in the top. It will be interesting to see if they show back up. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted June 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Earlier this week I did spray some more black burst with my airbrush onto the Z-Poxy. Since it was mostly touch up work and didn't show any noticeable changes, I didn't post any pics. I started clear coating this week and after several coats....5 or 6 maybe, I mixed up some black dye with lacquer thinner and added an equal amount of lacquer and airbrushed some more burst with a tint layer. After leveling the lacquer of course. After spraying I lightly micromeshed through the grits from the middle out to remove any overspray from everywhere but the edges. Here are some attempts to capture what that looked like. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted June 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Then I sprayed the next to last coats.....and here theit is with orange peel and a run in all its glory. I've just sprayed the last coats, and so it will hang for a couple of weeks. I've only gotten glimpses of how its going to look polished out........but that finish is deeeeeeeeep. SR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 I really like that color! Something about deep red guitars... always like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestvic Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Then I laid in some amber. This is pretty cool as is. SR I am stealing this idea. Sorry... you are not getting any royalties but I will have an "Amber Fire" finish this year. That is sick. +1 for me. This top finish is amazing haha I will give credit it and call it the SR stain job :-P Anyway, I'm happy to see that its getting a gloss top. This is one of the threads i keep watching closely Great work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Workingman Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 That top looks like lava that has almost cooled off to be solid but not quite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted June 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Thanks guys. I'm finding it very difficult to capture the color in a picture. Workingman's lava description comes pretty close. The dark areas of the figure are nearly black, but if you take it out into the sun and shift the angles, that dark area flips completely to the hot red with amber hints and the highlighted areas go dark. That's the way its supposed to work, but I got the contrasts so high, I wasn't sure it was going to. I can't wait to see what I have when it's all buffed out. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 So, it's been a day or two. While the lacquer was curing, I took a 10 day trip to Colorado (4 of them just driving back and forth from Houston) camping in the mountains with my son. We had a grand finale with a show at Red Rocks, and damn but that was the highlight of the trip...even before the first band came on stage. What a phenomenal place! Everyone that likes music should put it on their bucket list. Anyway, since I've been back I've started on the leveling and polishing process.the shiniest of the following shots are only half way through the process....but that's where I am. I did my best to capture the shade of red this thing has....which is very dificult....but you'll get the general idea. Hopefully I get it finished this weekend and can work on getting it set up...... SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ScottR Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 I'm not sure I like this Cardinal lacquer from LMI. It has left some bubbles in areas that I sprayed a little too thick and they are had to buff out. I have been melting them with a very thinned lacquer brushed on.....we'll see how it goes. SR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 That's going to have to hold me till this weekend. Happy birthday America! SR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestvic Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 wow that stuff polished up pretty nice! I assume this isnt even final buff either is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Happy birthday indeed! Scott, this guitar is looking absolutely stunning. It's very unique and equally as gorgeous. If it sounds like it looks, you have a definite winner on your hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Happy birthday indeed! Scott, this guitar is looking absolutely stunning. Very unique equally as gorgeous. If it sounds like it looks, you have a definite winner on your hands. Thanks Mike. It's got a pair of Rad's humbuckers going in it, so it ought to sound outstanding! Pestvic, I still have 5 grades of micromesh to go before I buff with polishing compound. More shine to come! SR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattharris75 Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 I'm not sure I like this Cardinal lacquer from LMI. It has left some bubbles in areas that I sprayed a little too thick and they are had to buff out. I have been melting them with a very thinned lacquer brushed on.....we'll see how it goes. SR Great stuff Scott, it looks comfy and beautiful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ScottR Posted July 10, 2012 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 It is indeed comfy Muzz...... I did get some work done this past weekend......but it was one of those sessions when each day you get up and notice something that needs to be fixed and you undo half of what you got done the day before. I thought I'd use a mini buffiing wheel on my dremel to polish out the insides of the recesses. it worked great too, right up until I burned through a couple of spots and left divits in the finish. so I got my brush and nitro and filled the divits and recoated the inside edges of the recesses, When I was done I noticed a couple of nice drops of lacquer on the front. It was an excellent example of how on coat burns into the next. I wiped the spots by reflex. Then I filled them and went in for the night. I spent the next morning re sanding and buffing out those boo-boos. I did get the rest of the polishing done after that....well, after I decided that the leveling job I'd done on the front wasn't quite right. I felt like I'd polished up a little orange peel nice and bright....so I fixed that too. You may just recognize the shape of my old Black and Decker mouse that I turned into a buffer- polisher during my last build. It is covered with the most wonderful, thick soft half of a pair of socks that I have ever put my hands on. Apparently, my wife added them to my rag bag. These were her 'my it's cold I'm going to sleep in socks tonight socks'. You know the ones--the ones that will take at least a new diamond to get off so you might as well roll over and go to sleep. I've never seen them this close before, let alone hold them in my hands. These are niiiiiiiiiice --for buffing. They polished up this new guitar like nobody's business. I don't like the way the color looks as much in these inside shots--flash or no. You may notice a nut blank in the next pic. I bought a tusq blank and measured it out found the spacing, and screwed up the measurements somehow. I spaced them too close together. I had a bone blank and did it correctly. Today I decded I could file down the grooves and re do the tusq, which I did. And I got some machine heads put in tonight. SR 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestvic Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 damn that looks nice! It polished up so nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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