Muzz Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 This piece of Queensland Maple was a Christmas present, so I am musing on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Looks big enough to slice and dice into a neckthru blank I like working with QLD maple. Great timber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Looks big enough to slice and dice into a neckthru blank I like working with QLD maple. Great timber. You know I would love to make a neckthru sometime Isn't Queensland maple a lovely timber, its got a great honeyish colour unstained, I am wondering how it takes a stain, and in this case how it takes a red stain. This piece is a good size for a bolt on, I am working out if I can do a tilt back head with a volute without doing a scarf joint. I remember someone saying that they used to think scarf joints were second rate, I know scarf necks can be structurally more sound than a non scarf, but to my eyes they just don't look good, I understand why someone might get the impression that they are second rate. I am getting the timber glued together soon for the practice model neck, try some stuff out before hacking into the QM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 I started out doing NON scarf necks, then I evolved to the scarf method. It saves so much wsate and opens up doors for creativity. When you mention non scarf and I look at that chunk of timber, all I see how much is going to get thrown out/burned/wasted at the end, when if you sliced and diced (as in make 3 piece necks) and scarf jointed you could cut several bolt on necks out of it or one good neckthru blank. I've only made maybe half a dozen necks from QLD maple and the body of the Rhoads I built around xmas time was QLD maple. I wish the stuff was a bit easier to get in my town without having to order/get posted here which then makes it cost as much as imported timber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowa90 Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Non scarf necks are fine when it is strat style, and no real angle. I've yet to do a scarf joint, but I will soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 I started out doing NON scarf necks, then I evolved to the scarf method. It saves so much wsate and opens up doors for creativity. When you mention non scarf and I look at that chunk of timber, all I see how much is going to get thrown out/burned/wasted at the end, when if you sliced and diced (as in make 3 piece necks) and scarf jointed you could cut several bolt on necks out of it or one good neckthru blank. I've only made maybe half a dozen necks from QLD maple and the body of the Rhoads I built around xmas time was QLD maple. I wish the stuff was a bit easier to get in my town without having to order/get posted here which then makes it cost as much as imported timber. Yep that V totally rocks, I bet the customer loves shredding on it Getting the timber is the issue isn't it, you can get much cheaper prices at normal timber shops, but you have to be careful and check the stuff out to make sure it is suitable for guitars. Some beautiful stuff at http://www.tasmaniantimbers.com/ but you pay for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Yep that V totally rocks, I bet the customer loves shredding on it Getting the timber is the issue isn't it, you can get much cheaper prices at normal timber shops, but you have to be careful and check the stuff out to make sure it is suitable for guitars. Some beautiful stuff at http://www.tasmaniantimbers.com/ but you pay for it The Camo Rhoads I built for myself, its the one with the QLD Maple, if you meant the black V, it's all Mahogany and is customers guitar. Not paid off yet so it's still hanging behind me. Tasmanian Tonewoods has some great looking stuff on their site from time to time, I've never bought from them before though. Most of my guitars get painted so theres no point in me spending bid bucks on their timber! One day though. One day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Non scarf necks are fine when it is strat style, and no real angle. I've yet to do a scarf joint, but I will soon! Yep, I am still in the open mind phase on this issue, good luck with your upcoming build, don't forget to post pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 Gluing up the practice neck using pieces of meranti, which has lots of other names including meranti bunga This is probably one clamp too many, but hey best err on the safe side and leave it overnight, I'm off to see Angels and Airwaves tonight, can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 This is probably one clamp too many, but hey best err on the safe side Duck for cover - the clamp police will be here any minute! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewey Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 I can still see timber in that shot, bad Muzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 The reason you have been pulled over, sir, is for an extreme lack of clampage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 The reason you have been pulled over, sir, is for an extreme lack of clampage. wrong type as much as a lack. that many clamps + a couple of cauls to distribute pressure would be fine if you were using G-clamps, would need a few more with F-clamps but trigger clamps only really hold stuff in place, they dont let you put any real pressure on the work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvteles Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 This is the latest lam neck I've done. A few more clamps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 Got here as soon as I could... I heard that the perp didn't use enough clamps. Good thing you guys jumped in and took over. Use more clamps <Graham Chapman voice> Now move along nothing else to see here... </Graham Chapman voice> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 This is probably one clamp too many, but hey best err on the safe side Duck for cover - the clamp police will be here any minute! It was inevitable wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 I can still see timber in that shot, bad Muzz. Heya Stewey, yes and many more very bad things are going to happen to the practice neck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowa90 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 I would never use less then 7 ("real" clamps, that can put some pressure down )for neck lams, and a caul! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Angels and Airwaves were great last night, Tom DeLonge was in fine voice Medina Lake who supported them were good too. And Stewey we better not talk about glue, last time I did that I sparked a thread where dudes arranged their glue collections into still life arrangements and posted them, too funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewey Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Glue is cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted February 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Glue is cool. It certainly is, it still amazes me that wood can be bonded together so strongly allowing you to make such cool things out of it. Carpentry has such a calming effect on me, love the simple pleasures in life. A couple of months back I got home and this gift was sitting on the table waiting for me. A lovely Jem copy, I dig the neck on it, it certainly will be influencing this build. The three sticks glued together are for practicing and modeling the real neck, and will not actually be used, the practice neck is the lightning conductor for FUBARS So the design of this guitar is just starting at this point there are a few defining parameters, and will allow me to take some of the forks in the road I chose not to take on my last guitar. Obviously the colour is decided. And like cooking on Wednesday night, I will be using up what's left in the cupboard. This is my parts box. And in it I found a trad whammy, I haven't used one of these before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I like the way your threads start out with the contemplation of a single piece of timber. You said the pointy stick was going to be a lazy build......how much time are you allowing for this one? SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted February 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I like the way your threads start out with the contemplation of a single piece of timber. You said the pointy stick was going to be a lazy build......how much time are you allowing for this one? SR That's great, yep absolutely no rush on this one, I love the planning stage, and making the decisions that shape the guitar. I like to take forks in the road as I go along and watch the guitar evolve. It's good to consider the advice that I get along the way. I don't want to make a clone, it's fun to experiment. Next decision is what type of nut to use, and then put pencil to paper and the neck dimensions and an important part of the build - the head stock shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 And in it I found a trad whammy, I haven't used one of these before Muzz - is Trad a brand name ? I've never heard of a Trad whammy. That particular type of tremolo is a "end of the last song of the night" kind of deal for me. The tuning stability is pretty bad so expect to re-tune the geet after using it. Or , wipe it down and put it in its case. Also -knobs that go to 11 only really work if your pots go to 11 too. Have fun with it. I'll B watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Muzz - is Trad a brand name ? I've never heard of a Trad whammy. That particular type of tremolo is a "end of the last song of the night" kind of deal for me. The tuning stability is pretty bad so expect to re-tune the geet after using it. Or , wipe it down and put it in its case. Also -knobs that go to 11 only really work if your pots go to 11 too. Have fun with it. I'll B watching. Hey OSi great to hear from you, yep I have two locking trem guitars that I just cannot put out of tune no matter how hard I try. The traditional trems can not take the same level of abuse that is for sure. Now to search the internet for those special pots that go up to 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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