westhemann Posted July 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Oh crap,I still have to drill the neck pocket screw holes in the bodies...Oh well,that's easy enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazygtr Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 What method (brush, rag) do you use to apply the C/A ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Business card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Recently I bought a whole box of powder free nitrile gloves and that makes it easy to rub the CA into the sides of the body without drips... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Started some carving.Decided to use the flap disk on the grinder to save some time The first body I am trying a more progressive style of contouring While #2 is more traditional The back of #1 I was just getting started on the hand sanding when I was forced to stop by the heat of the day...I was sweating all over the guitars and that just won't do...I'll hit it again this evening I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazygtr Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I feel you man, whenever I work on the shop (no A/C) I drip all over the place, my son sometimes help and he can't get over it and leaves. ha, ha, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 A few dents and scratches...It certainly works easily,but I doubt I would ever seek it out intentionally again.An entire guitar body made of it would be very vulnerable,I would think. Yeah. That's one of the reasons I put a shell of Z-poxy on mine. It does sound good though. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi79 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Man those tops are awesome. These builds are sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliemc Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 I also have a big heavy Dewalt DW625EK for bodies & necks. I don't shape my bodies with a router.Too much risk for me.Even the thought of it scares me. Its not all that bad. I take my bodies down to about 2-3mm from the finished profile with the band saw. with that little to take off the big router is easy to run around. But I only do 1/4 of a body at a time so that it never gets to a point where the router is held in a weak grip. & the depth is handled by going around 3 times (depending on the depth it could be more) So rout the front face - top horn about 12-15mm deep, reposition & reclamp the body, rout the forearm area, reposition & reclamp bla bla bla. Go all the way round once then reset the depth for the next 12-15mm & start over. So a body has about 24 distinct tasks to edge profile it, A neck has about 8. But still, Cant argue with your results - your stuff rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 I always underestimate how long sanding takes...but i have one body completely sealed,and the other needs the edges sanded and sealed...I had to do the tops and backs as I got them sanded so I could keep from scratching them up... And a small teaser pic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 I may break down and try the router shaping on my future "plain wood" guitars,Paulie......i am sick to death of sanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 It's crazy what you'll do to keep on sealing a body after the sun goes down...but i really want to level the CA in the morning and start spraying the finish I'll be happier once I black out the cavities with the conducting paint I always use...I am going back on my thought to use humbucker rings...I did a mock up earlier and it just looks too good without rings.It means I will have to fabricate some blocks to glue in to the cavities for the pickup ears to sit on,but I don't mind that.The flash is on in the first pic...the actual color of the body is much lighter Spanish Cedar looks exactly like mahogany when it's sealed...but it smells better when sanding All in all i am enjoying the ease of working on a body that is not attached to a neck...I may just get over my preference for set necks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 I did something different this time around,by the way...I used thin CA to seal... two coats of it.Then after that dried I scuff sanded it and applied medium CA to make it thick enough to level... The thinking was that the thin stuff would sink into the pores and make the wood appear "deeper"...and it seems to have worked well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Started the finish on the first body 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Something doesn't flow right about this one...I am going to have to rework it to look better..it looks very...unsubtle somehow It lacks elegance or something..no i don't know why the upper part is in bold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Is it the bass side bevel that's bugging you? SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 No...that did at first because of the different woods making it appear uneven,but it's the cutaways that are really bugging me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maull Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Something doesn't flow right about this one...I am going to have to rework it to look better..it looks very...unsubtle somehow It lacks elegance or something..no i don't know why the upper part is in bold It might just be the angle of this shot but the treble horn looks much fatter and more rounded than the bass horn to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Other shots make them look more equal..... Wes try tracing your body and on that tracing bring the outside edge of the treble horn in a little and taper it towards the tip a little -- just slightly more pointed. It is shorter than the bass side so it needs to be porportionally narrower too to look balanced to your eye. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliemc Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Other shots make them look more equal..... Wes try tracing your body and on that tracing bring the outside edge of the treble horn in a little and taper it towards the tip a little -- just slightly more pointed. It is shorter than the bass side so it needs to be porportionally narrower too to look balanced to your eye. SR The angle of the shot is not helping - But - I think the bottom horn looks a bit heavy, Lumpen even I think the situation is exagerated by the slight carve there making it look distended aswell. Also. The angle that is set up between the 2 innermost points of the cut outs does not match that of the tips of the horns. The bottom horn appears longer because of it. But this may all be due to the numerious profile edges on the top due to the carve. Id do as Scott suggests & trace it out. See it it has the same issues as an outline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 So while I am contemplating the body,I should go on about the neck...position markers This is a coring bit for tile you can get at Lowes,etc So I cored out 24 of them and drilled holes of the corresponding size in my fretboards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Make sure they fit epoxy And wait for them to dry All that went pretty well.The coring bit leaves ragged edges on the one side,so I face that up so that when I sand down flush to the board it all goes away... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 So I trace out the volute how I want it Draw out the profile And go to it with the bench sander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 So now both are flat on back So I break out the spindle sander and rough it out Then i use my rasp to get the rest roughed out That's where I stand right now..at the hand sanding portion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Final fit in the neck pocket before I go all gonzo on the sanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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