NIGHTTrOLL Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 What's up guys, Have been lurking around the forum for awhile and finally decided to post here. I've built guitars in the past (albeit not as well as some of the people who post here, you guys rock) but this will be the first build in a long while, so here we go. 27.5" baritone 7 string made entirely of ebony and bloodwood, I don't know if this is somewhat of a faux pas but oh well it'll be cool and extremely heavy, which is exactly what I'm looking for Here's a mockup I did in Sketchup of what I'm hoping it will look like Here's the rough cut laminates for the neck blank. Will get them thicknessed and glued up soon Sorry about bad pics, I don't have a proper camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTTrOLL Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Neck Blank after thicknessing and a few hours glued up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Welcome. That looks tasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Clamp police might show up soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob123 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Clamp police might show up soon... CLEARLY THERE IS ROOM FOR 4 MORE CLAMPS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 You're right about the weight. Ebony, Bloodwood, Snakewood, Lignum Vitae, etc. are all immensely heavy but do look excellent when finished well. More clamps might well have been a good idea - let us know how it comes out of clamping! Not a faux pas as such, but you are setting yourself up with quite the task. The pointy bits will be prone to chipping due to the brittle nature of the woods you're using and the sound might be hella bright. The extended scale should help reinforce the low end through tension however. Are you planning on bending Bloodwood in order to create the outline or will that be paint? Not entirely sure how you would go about that one to be honest. Subscribed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTTrOLL Posted October 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Thanks for the views and feedback guys, progress is slow and I didn't get to do any work this week but I will update when I can. Are you planning on bending Bloodwood in order to create the outline or will that be paint? Not entirely sure how you would go about that one to be honest. The bloodwood outline will be achieved by laminating thin pieces of ebony over bloodwood and then beveling the sides. There will be absolutely no paint used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pan_kara Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 ah, ok - so basically the wings will be bloodwood, with ebony veneer? This will be interesting to see! I have a similar color scheme in mind on one of my ongoing projects, but I'm using wenge and padouk, with a bloodwood fingerboard. Good luck with this one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTTrOLL Posted October 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 ah, ok - so basically the wings will be bloodwood, with ebony veneer? This will be interesting to see! I have a similar color scheme in mind on one of my ongoing projects, but I'm using wenge and padouk, with a bloodwood fingerboard. Good luck with this one! almost, the tentative wing laminates are as follows: 1/16" ebony 1/4" bloodwood 1 1/8" ebony 1/4" bloodwood 1/16" ebony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 That makes sense! I'm really looking forward to seeing progress photos of the build steps whilst also being glad that I'm not the person having to evacuate Ebony dust from every corner of the workshop ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTTrOLL Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Progress has been slow due to my lack of access to a shop for various reasons, but I got a little bit done today. Got the neck blank cleaned up a little bit. Came out of clamps looking fine Headstock angle rough cut, about to clean it up a bit After a little tidying up. bad pic as per usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTTrOLL Posted March 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Been busy, slight update though. Got the headstock plate cut out today: It's gluing up right now, more pics when more gets done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 I hope you are prepared for the massive neck dive that thing is about to produce. Off balance body plus baritone ebony neck. eek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SykoDJ Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 those woods are very nice looks like itll be a badass guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTTrOLL Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Had a bit of tearout while trying to cut the headstock flush with the plate I managed to find the chunk that tore out and have it gluing back on now. It's a clean break, not too severe and not anything that will affect playability or structural integrity under string tension but naturally I'm not very happy about it. Definitely not a dealbreaker but certainly annoying. Only thing I can really do now is wait it out. I guess it's a sign that I've done enough for the day and a reminder that extra care must be taken with the ebony I am using. This is the first time I've used ebony on anything other than a fingerboard; I knew going into this that it may be difficult to work with but I'm now really seeing how true this is. Will post pics when it's done gluing up, hope all is well with everyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTTrOLL Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I hope you are prepared for the massive neck dive that thing is about to produce. Off balance body plus baritone ebony neck. eek I only really play sitting down and own a bunch of neck heavy guitars already; I'm so used to it that it would feel weird to me not having a guitar that wants to neck dive. I do appreciate the concern though those woods are very nice looks like itll be a badass guitar Thanks! At this point I'm mainly just hoping that I don't end up with a pile of useless ebony and bloodwood due to mishaps like the tearout I had today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTTrOLL Posted March 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Tearout glued up ok. Not perfect but I can live with it. Got the plate on the headstock and cut it flush. Will get binding and inlay on next week, for now I'm happy with what I got done today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maull Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Looks good so far. What are you planning to fill that dragon with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTTrOLL Posted March 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Here are a couple more pics I absolutely love the back of the neck. I didn't account for the upper point when I was cutting the wood for the neck blank, so it had to be glued on. I know the joint isn't pretty and I'm not too excited about it but I can live with it. The point on the left side is where the tearout happened. I was thinking about putting a plate on the back but I like the bloodwood stripes so much that I'd really rather not. If anyone has any advice as to what I might be able to do about it (without sawing anything off) I'm all ears. Looks good so far. What are you planning to fill that dragon with? All inlay and binding will be made of bloodwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Have you got a clearer picture of the joint, and am I right in thinking that you are wanting to know if you can disguise it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Make a plate out of the same combination of bloodwood and ebony. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTTrOLL Posted March 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Here's a clearer shot of the joint I'd like to try to disguise if possible I like the idea of adding a plate with the same laminate combo so I may end up going that route but we'll see, if I do that I'll end up waiting till after I carve the scarf and back of neck. I also have some ebony colored wood filler from minwax, I'll try to put some of that into there and see how it looks but I have my doubts about how effective that will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTTrOLL Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Got the binding done. After breaking numerous strips of bloodwood while trying to bend it I decided to just cut it out instead. Here's how that turned out: I also got it ready for the fingerboard, here's a quick mockup: Loads of cleanup to do, but I'm pretty happy with how it's shaping up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevinTacheny Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 this is literally one of the sexiest guitars i have ever seen in my life and its not even done yet!!!cant wait for more!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HCRoadie Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 The headstock shape is nice. Very fitting for the style/vibe of the guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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