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ScottR    1,355

You've got an opportunity to end up with a very unique looking guitar here. A pallet wood Vee screams bottle neck blues to me.

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10pizza    51

flying V made from pallet-wood, like it!

once finished I definitely would like to hear some sound-clips! 

good luck. 

any idea what you'll use to make the neck?

 

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spottydog    2

At the moment I want to see if I can use the same wood from the pallet with a piece of oak in the middle to strengthen the neck. I think it would be an interesting experiment as you normally use hard woods for strength and sound. I plan to bolt on the neck so if problems occur at a later date I will be able to remove the neck and replace it.

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Prostheta    1,254

Oak is great when stable, a but coarse though. Careful working produces a really nice smooth wood surface.

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spottydog    2

Hi, Just a quick question you may be able to help with. Can you use methylated spirits to clean wood the same as you use denatured alcohol when cleaning off after sanding, as I know that meths does contain denatured alcohol. Many thanks for any help.

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Prostheta    1,254

Yes, since they are essentially the same thing. Methylated spirits have a bittering agent, dye and methyl alcohol added to the base ethanol. Denatured alcohol is more or less the same thing, except meths has the colour added. Not sure if anybody else outside of the UK does that. The dye might be a problem. Is yours clear?

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Zoltar    30

I'm not sure about potential effects of the purple dye, but I find frosting the rim of the glass with sugar allays the bitterness somewhat.

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spottydog    2

Hi Prostheta, thanks for the advice yea mine has purple dye in it but I don't think it will be enough to cause a problem. I asked as it is easier to get hold of meths. most diy stores sell it.

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spottydog    2

Neck is coming along slowly. I have truss rod installed and neck ready for final shaping. When putting in truss rod is it best to put a fillet on top before fixing fret board. I am just worried about going too deep on neck and not having enough wood left to shape the back of the neck without sanding through to the truss rod.

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Prostheta    1,254

No need for a fillet with that type. Generally fillets are only required if the rod isn't flush itself; that is, with single acting compression rods. This isn't to say that you can't use one, however generally you don't with the straight types.

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spottydog    2

Still on with neck am now fitting frets and was wondering if anyone glues frets in if they are a little slack after fitting also I have pre cut frets as I have no way of bending them to shape. The pre cut frets are not quite as wide as my fretboard. Is this normal. Many thanks

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Prostheta    1,254

I don't tend to glue fretwire in, however loose frets will never seat correctly without it. Just take care to clean up any squeezeout whilst it's still wet. Pre-cut wire isn't something I use either, for reasons of sizing, economy and re-radiusing. If you want to re-radius wire, cut a slot in a radiused piece of wood (one radius size smaller than you need) and make it deliberately loose. Enough so that you can remove the fret. Tap it with a fret hammer and form the radius that way. Not ideal, but the only way that springs to mind on re-radiusing short pieces of wire.

Not as wide as your board? That's strange....which wire did you buy, and what's your board width?

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spottydog    2

Thanks for the advice. The frets came from China (maybe that's the problem). I will have to measure the fretboard and post how wide it is tomorrow. Would you say it's better to fix the board to the neck before fretting or fret the board first.

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Norris    207

Get some new fret wire with a wider tang? You could then cut it to the lengths you need and hopefully they will stay put without glue

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spottydog    2

Thanks for help and advice. The problem with the frets been short was I am embarrassed to say a building error. the board was too wide I have now sorted the problem out and the frets fit much better.

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spottydog    2

Hi. Last guitar I made I had trouble with the angle of the neck which resulted in the action been too high. Does anyone have any hints or tips for getting the correct neck angle to stop this from happening again. I was hoping to bolt the neck onto my flying v rather than glue it on as I did with my last guitar.

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Prostheta    1,254

Sure. Well, what did the issue stem from? Was this down to how you calculated the neck angle, cut it into the neck or perhaps an error of measurement somewhere? That's usually a good start in order to apply yourself to the cause.

Never be embarrassed about anything, otherwise you'll stop yourself from progressing or discussing areas that need improvement. I know that I'm crap at paint for example, and I'm happy for other people to help bring me up to speed in that kind of area.

I always describe the neck angle as being a combination of two things; the neck to body angle itself and the height that the fingerboard "leaves" the body. The higher the latter, the smaller the former. 

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