Jump to content

Voting for November 2019's Guitar Of The Month is open - VOTE HERE!

westhemann

Misc Stuff about Life. Part XII

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, westhemann said:

I don't really know where I should post this, but considering he used to post in this topic when he ran the site I feel it's appropriate enough.

Apparently Brian Calvert passed away 5/23/19 according to his Facebook page. It was days later before a post crossed my FB page and I mentioned it to Pros, but I think Pros is still unavailable at the moment.

Anyway, I kind of had a hard time believing it so I checked, double checked, and checked again... 

Here is a link to his FB page, which is still open. I don't know what hus privacy settings are though, so I don't know if the link will work if you aren't FB friends.

https://m.facebook.com/brian.calvert.315?tsid=0.6534962847510628&source=result

OMG, did you try and find an Obit? This is really sad news. :(

MK

 

update: I cannot find any obits?

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No obituary that I know of. It's all over his Facebook page. Universal Jems is also closed down.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Are you not able to see the FB page?

 I didn't mean to make it sound like it wasn't a fact. There is an RIP notification on his FB page, condolences from his family and friends to one another, one of which is a lady who I know as a former member here from the early days that has been a lifelong friend of his, etc.

Edited by westhemann

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I wasn't able to find any good information either. It's saddening whenever we lose people who have had a place in shaping the places we socialise, learn, how we communicate with the world and subsequently how that also shapes ourselves. Brian was always a guy with the best of intentions, and to me that makes the difference in any person. However, we never really knew each other on the same level as most of the old guard here (I still feel like a new guy, how weird is that?), probably because I'm a bonehead. That's my loss, definitely. I wish I could say or tell more about Brian, however most other people knew him better than I.

Brian ran PG with a simpler and more honest set of motivations, and I've always respected that. I've been happy with choices of not moving forward with the bullshit modern "you have to market to grow", which ultimately ruins the initial simple and true reasoning for even being here. If there's one thing I can continue to do that Brian - whether by choice or simple lack of poor motivations - did, that's to keep PG open, friendly and simple. It's about the people, and that's why I chose to stay here all those years back. It's always been a great place, where the quality of people - experienced and not - shape the conversation, how we interact with each other and how we all keep ourselves moving forward. This above all things is what Brian left us here, whether by intent or simply by who he was.

Thanks Brian. I hope you manage to catch up with the head start Bowie's ship got. 🧙‍♂️

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have to admit that I've not used FB for several months, Mike. I pretty much refuse to. I had a look when you told me about Brian, and his name didn't come up in my search box. That said, your link worked for me.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't think the "old guard" knew him on a deeper level, Pros. Brian always kept his forum conversation light. He never discussed any deep thoughts or personal trials and tribulations with me even though we communicated most days here. I think he reserved his personal stuff for his real life friends.

He just had a really light touch here and kept it mostly to jokes in the slam thread or if I asked his opinion on a forum issue he'd either respond with "as you see fit" or "just sounds like a guy expressing an opinion."

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The last few years mostly consisted of him responding to my FB posts or him sending me links to videos he thought I'd like. He didn't post much personal information on FB either. Mostly pictures of his vacations.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I finally got in his FB. I had to remove the "m." from the link as I was on my PC..

Damn that is saddening news.
mike

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

:(

just heard the news. Brian really laid down a great set of parameters to really let this forum grow, and help all those who wanted to participate. That’s not as easy as it sounds. Respect. 

Condolences to his family. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ever the contrarian, I have to partially disagree on some level Perry (and when do I do that, eh?). Brian's easy-enough-going approach allowed the culture to develop naturally. Perhaps better than "unnaturally" like the boom and bust sites that just come and go.

Parameters enough to keep things civilised, loose enough that things aren't so terse that your balls drop off from a lack of blood flow.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Prostheta said:

Ever the contrarian, I have to partially disagree on some level Perry (and when do I do that, eh?). Brian's easy-enough-going approach allowed the culture to develop naturally. Perhaps better than "unnaturally" like the boom and bust sites that just come and go.

Parameters enough to keep things civilised, loose enough that things aren't so terse that your balls drop off from a lack of blood flow.

Not sure why you have to try to disagree by saying exactly what I was. 

I came here to show respect. Not argue.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Couldn't be further from the intent Perry! I agree that he laid down the parameters by almost not doing so, which I think is an underlying simple beauty whether by intent or virtue. I respect that. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sad news for PG community.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

OKay All, I am going to say this as nicely as I can. If someone has a thread in chat or other areas fine with some discussions on alternate techniques. Someones build thread is not the place for that unless they ask. Suggestions can be helpful as well to a point.

I had my build thread deleted as it got hijacked way out to left field. I most likely will not start another. I have been at this for more than 10years and I have my way of doing things. I can make suggestions if you ask me. otherwise I keep my damn mouth shut, give them an atta boy and enjoy the persons work.

 

Ok off my soapbox, I care for all of you guys and I know it is sometimes hard.

Thanks

Mike

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, MiKro said:

OKay All, I am going to say this as nicely as I can. If someone has a thread in chat or other areas fine with some discussions on alternate techniques. Someones build thread is not the place for that unless they ask. Suggestions can be helpful as well to a point.

I had my build thread deleted as it got hijacked way out to left field. I most likely will not start another. I have been at this for more than 10years and I have my way of doing things. I can make suggestions if you ask me. otherwise I keep my damn mouth shut, give them an atta boy and enjoy the persons work.

 

Ok off my soapbox, I care for all of you guys and I know it is sometimes hard.

Thanks

Mike

Perhaps if you explained how you were going to do that task, as other members are clearly interested in it, you might get the reaction to your posts that you’re looking for. If you’ve got trade secrets that you don’t wish to share, well the in progress project thread probably isn’t for you. Deleting your posts because members are discussing how you’re going go your task is quite sad 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, ADFinlayson said:

Perhaps if you explained how you were going to do that task, as other members are clearly interested in it, you might get the reaction to your posts that you’re looking for. If you’ve got trade secrets that you don’t wish to share, well the in progress project thread probably isn’t for you. Deleting your posts because members are discussing how you’re going go your task is quite sad 

Or you could just start a new topic to discuss the method so the builder doesn't have to wade through an external discussion to post his next step. That would be the polite thing. That discussion had every sign of starting to drag on.

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Alright guys, alright. I know that everybody has different expectations of the conversation on PG, and the better way here is to be polite and clear when things move beyond what you're prepared to discuss within a build thread. We have freedom enough to keep the bounds of what is willing to be discussed (or not) friendly and respectful just as much as we tend to drift into general discussion. Take a breath, figure out where things started to diverge and manage your expectations guys. Anybody that is willing to share their ideas, process and advice is worthy of the highest respect by default....they are certainly under no obligation to have to go above and beyond unless they choose to. Either way is perfectly fine. Being able to ask a question or seed a discussion is also valuable. We need both of these things.

The role of moderators is to ensure that things don't go tits up and out of control. Even though I was not part of this conversation, this should have been in the realm of self-moderation; set the bounds of where you want the thread to stay if you feel the need to do so, figure out a better way of having the conversation you want to have. None of this was cool, and going back deleting your own content is to the detriment of all. It goes against the idea of a shared space where we can show, discuss, ideate, advise and be advised.

Sort yourselves out or you're off my christmas card list. Blame is taking the low road. Figure out how to raise the standard, because that's what a functional community does. Suck it up, shake hands and provide a better example. I urgently have site code to fix and don't want to be running around things like this. 😶💭

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It was obvious I use cnc. It is not a trade secret. Then to start on a tangent for someone else to tell me how I should or they would do it is not cool. So yes it pissed me off.

Have a good day!!

mk

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@MiKro having seen the quality of your builds I agree that telling you how you should do it is not cool.

How similar results could or could not be achieved without having your know-how and machinery might have been an interesting and educational side rail while waiting for your next post.

🍻

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd recommend taking a bit of ownership of build threads from the get-go. If conversation beyond asking direct questions on how something was done, clarification, etc. is not the intent of the documentation, make note of that in the opening lede. That way self-moderation or internal site moderation can be done gracefully, respectfully and without provokation.

Maybe you should also make note that you're a hell of a grumpy old beast to go poking in the first place, Mike. 😄

Alright. In other news, I fixed up some urgent codebase updates that got fucked up in the recent major software upgrade. GOTM winner posts were the main victim here, however if anybody notices other EX0 or server-side errors being thrown, poke me or a mod.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, Prostheta said:

I'd recommend taking a bit of ownership of build threads from the get-go. If conversation beyond asking direct questions on how something was done, clarification, etc. is not the intent of the documentation, make note of that in the opening lede. That way self-moderation or internal site moderation can be done gracefully, respectfully and without provokation.

Maybe you should also make note that you're a hell of a grumpy old beast to go poking in the first place, Mike. 😄

>snip<

OKAY MOM!!! I will try and not be that GRUMPY OLD BEAST!!

My apologies to those affected.

MK

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I can fix code, I can't fix your grump old fart! We can laugh it off. There are worse things in the world.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

just wanted to say... for my part in this... genuinely sorry for any offense. 

Kind of felt like I made one reply to what I thought was a conversation on a forum - trying to talk about solving a problem... and got my head bit off, and I don't appreciate that, but I'll try not to take it personally. 

In my defense, it's unclear what the rules for each thread are, and I assume that forums are for replies.  The word forum implies it.  On the other hand, I understand that wading through random conversations in order to see a complete build process start-to-finish can be frustrating. 

The way I have approached this is, I have done the work to double post everything... once in the first post, once as a new reply.  the first post showing my humble process start to finish uninterrupted.  The inevitable sidetracks, humor, jacking around, congratulations, struggles, requests-for-advice - can just happen naturally. 

In my view, anyone who takes the time to respond to one of my threads is doing me a favor by not only showing interest in my project, but also bumping my thread to the top again. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's what happens sometime when you have a relatively restriction-free forum. Thread "owners" can set the tone, and really should do so if they have the intention to shape what is being communicated. Nobody's fault, but everyone's to blame kind of thing. It's fine. We're not on fire (yet) so worse things could happen.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
25 minutes ago, Prostheta said:

It's what happens sometime when you have a relatively restriction-free forum. Thread "owners" can set the tone, and really should do so if they have the intention to shape what is being communicated. Nobody's fault, but everyone's to blame kind of thing. It's fine. We're not on fire (yet) so worse things could happen.

it's all good just kind of nervous of whether or not I can/should respond to anyone's thread at this point!  I always try to do what the romans are doing... but it did not serve me well on this one!  Ah well, I think we'll all live anyway, just hope we don't lose an interesting thread-maker in the process.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


×
×
  • Create New...