krazyderek Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 i'm more of a 5 string sweeper guy, but yes i do find them easier then 3 string, more time between the direction changes lets you keep timing better i find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 wow.....this is weird, does anybody find 6 string sweeps easier than 3 string sweeps? Um, no . I find the 6 string sweep more difficult. Try this: ^ h ^ ----- ^ h vS p v ------ v p v p e |-------------5-9-12-9---------------------| B |-----------5----------10------------------| G |---------6---------------9----------------| D |-------7-------------------11-------------| A |-----7------------------------12-7--------| E |-5-9-------------------------------9-5----| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Oh, and yes, I agree with krazyderek, the 5 string variety is easiest . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Try this: ^ h ^ ----- ^ h vS p v ------ v p v p e |-------------5-9-12-9---------------------| B |-----------5----------10------------------| G |---------6---------------9----------------| D |-------7-------------------11-------------| A |-----7------------------------12-7--------| E |-5-9-------------------------------9-5----| that ain't a sweep acording to my finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 that ain't a sweep acording to my finger Hmm... really? I double checked the tab just now. It's doable with sweeping (no alternate picking)... co-ordinating the hammers/pulls/slide with the sweep is the hard part . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Try this: ^ h ^ ----- ^ h vS p v ------ v p v p e |-------------5-9-12-9---------------------| B |-----------5----------10------------------| G |---------6---------------9----------------| D |-------7-------------------11-------------| A |-----7------------------------12-7--------| E |-5-9-------------------------------9-5----| that ain't a sweep acording to my finger Well, I recorded it to an mp3 here. I played it clean (w/o distortion) and slowly so you can hear the hammer-ons and pull-offs and the slide. Hopefully y'all can hear that it is done with sweep picking. Excuse the old man's sloppiness . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckguitarist Posted April 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 wow.....this is weird, does anybody find 6 string sweeps easier than 3 string sweeps? Um, no . I find the 6 string sweep more difficult. AHHHH! man, I want my 3 string sweeps back!!!! EDIT: Oh, and nyjbkim, do you split 6 string sweeps up into 2 - 3 string ones or do you do the finger rolly thing?.......if that makes sense.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Riffer Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 WOW, all these tips and lessons are great. Thanks!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hy_dro66 Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 Have y'all heard of Tony McApline? A guitarist I know gave me a DVD of his with some lessons on it. He plays some tunes and then shows some of his tricks. Supposedly he backs Steve Vai and some other virtuoso types. Anyway he's good and cool to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Definitely a class player, though a bit more firmly ensconced in the 'shred' genre than I normally listen to. I'd love to get a few lessons from him, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveq Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 I used to have a Tony MacAlpine tape (tape = long time ago). He's very good. I haven't heard much about him lately though - is he still in the business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dangerouso Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Totally. Check out the new G3 vid. The bald keyboard/guitar player is MacAlpine. Vai's set really rocked. He had so many good players besides himself, shows how comfortable he is with himself and his playing. Wish I was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowser Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 didnt he and vai do that thing where they played on eachothers necks during a song? I heard about that and i saw a pic of it, it was amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swirlslave Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 actually, it a threesome (lol).. check out vai dvd LIVE IN ASTORIA and you will see macalpine,vai, and dave weiner play on each other neck in one song (cant remember which one right now ) i actually see them live on g3 tour when they got here in montreal last winter, thats was unbelievable !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcow Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 actually, it a threesome (lol).. check out vai dvd LIVE IN ASTORIA and you will see macalpine,vai, and dave weiner play on each other neck in one song (cant remember which one right now ) i actually see them live on g3 tour when they got here in montreal last winter, thats was unbelievable !!!!! you are one lucky guy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezerboy Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 threesome and weiner in one post..genius, pure pure genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swirlslave Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 errrr, lol !!! you pervert... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hy_dro66 Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 What's crazy is that McApline can play the keys as good as he can play the guitar. He's a killer classical piano player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdguitars Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 oh gosh sometimes when I read these threads I am like whats sweep pickin??? I know what it is but my fingers don;t work like that at all... I did like the lessons though will try sweep pickin on my lucille tonight! BB would love that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 AHHHH! man, I want my 3 string sweeps back!!!! EDIT: Oh, and nyjbkim, do you split 6 string sweeps up into 2 - 3 string ones or do you do the finger rolly thing?.......if that makes sense.... D'oh! This is old. Sorry, I didn't notice your EDIT: before now. I think you're saying 2 - 3 string ones from the left hand view perspective. Hmm... I see it more as the whole picture. So, I guess it is the finger rolly thing... if that makes sense.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 It's wierd, I've been playing for about 13 or so years, and I can't read music or even tab particularly well, but more often than not when I start reading about a technique I realise "Hey, I already do that, I just didn't know it had a name". It makes me wonder where I picked it all up from really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombershredder Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 (edited) Basically MUTING TECHNIQUE is VERY Improtant and all you have to understand is that all the downstroked/the sweep, is actually ONE(one motion, your pick sweeps or pushes into the next string with the muting technique muting the previous string you played) About muting technique.... right hand mutes the strings you played and left hand mutes the strings you are going to play and you pick plays the string you havent muted.this is when sweeping down when sweeping back up its the oppositte. the left hand mutes the strings you played and well the right hand dances. take up any two string sweep practice that forward backward and you can advance. Try this e-------15---19- b----17---------17 g-16---------------16 three down three up. do it with a major 7th arp(the a6th fret on the g string becomes a 17, thus you now have a two string bar) it sounds nice! use a dimini arp and the shape coming back will be a mirror image..so youre doing 1-3-4's, OR 4-3-1's on differnt string groups on the highe b nd g. good for people starting out with sweep. also visit www.francescofareri.com and rustycooley.com the exercise above aint mine, its cooleys. enjoy! Edited October 2, 2005 by westhemann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikazi Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 i know of this sweeping master too from CFH he is from greece very nice friendly guy here and all he does is sweeping all night long with his burning guitar picks hahaha he is theodore ziras check him out at chops from hell . i gotten his videos together with rusty cooley !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starry_night Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 hey for those loners out there who strives to learn the best guitar playing out there... need not to learn alone anymore, you need a company, so lets exchange ideas and knowledge for a speedy learning.. plese visit the guitar heroes den (teachers wanted) thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkrose Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Whoever said strum when talking about sweep picking... ARGH! Sweep picking needs to be thought of as a motion carried out by your entire hand. Try not to do it so much as a wrist motion. The idea of the wrist motions is to avoid hitting undesired strings. Practice three string swept arpeggios on basic triads in order to work on your technique. Start very slowly and with a metronome. Let your right hand move up or down the bridge in order to let the pick sweep on the strings. The tricky part of sweep picking is the coordination of the left hand. Here are the most basic shapes to practice: e|-15-12---- B|-------13--- G|----------12- D|-------------- A|--------------- E|--------------- And you also practice the same as a downward sweep. Very gradually working towards bigger sweeps or different shapes. If you use a strumming motion, your sweeps will be limited and sloppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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