Reilar

Hello! The tuner swap worked! I changed them for the Grover ones and also used some small metal slices to stabilize the tailpiece. Now it stays in tune like a dream! Thanks for the help guys!

The Framus tuners are 30$, so they aren't like ultra cheap. I saw some Klusson tuners on Thomann that got great reviews and they were even cheaper than the Framus. I think I might just risk it and get them.

It looks like indeed it is a problem with the whole hardware and not just the tuners. For now I will probably just upgrade the tuners and do the rest on a later date. Either way thanks for the valuable info!

Some time ago I have built myself a Les Paul from a DIY-kit I bought. Unfortunately I have noticed that the tuning stability is rather lacking. I have decided to try and fix this issue, but I am unsure where the problem lies. Few "hotspots" I'm considering are: the tuning pegs - I had quite a lot of trouble when trying to tune the guitar, especially the A string. It seemed like the peg itself was moving. The tuners overall don't give out a promising feel, especially given that the kit itself was rather on the budget side. I would normally think the tuning pegs are the main problem, but after reading some discussions, I have seen differing opinions on this topic. the nut - in order to get the action low enough to be usable, I had to file down the holes for the strings. I had no proper tools to do this, so as you can imagine, it's far from a clean job. I suspect the grooves are all over the place, however the strings themselves should just sit in the deepest one and not move around. For anyone wondering I have used a pencil to lubricate the nut. the bridge/tailpiece - for some reason the holes that were drilled for the bridge and tailpiece pins were too big and I had to put some paper in them to fill the space. Under tension of the strings, I can definitely see that the tailpiece is slightly coming out of its place and tiling towards the neck, thus getting stuck on the back wall of the hole. It's looking quite stable in this position, but I can imagine that when it comes to tuning stability, it's the smallest things that make the difference. Right now the guitar absolutely dislikes any bends and I also feel like it tends to break strings more often than other guitars I own. I am planning on upgrading this guitar as a whole, but I just don't have the time or resources to do it now. I have been thinking about upgrading only the tuning pegs, but if it won't make any difference then I'd rather not spend the money. I was wondering if you guys could guide me in the right direction. PS Are Framus tuners good? The Grover tuners I've found are 3x the price of Framus' and I don't know if they're actually worth it.