hey frenzy,,, you may be on to something about that neck angle on gibsons. I have experience with les pauls, sg's, and an es333 and I have never personally seen a neck angle of over 4 degrees on mine. They may be out there but I haven't seen one yet. 7 degrees is getting into headstock angle areas. I would like to see a neck angle of 7 degrees though. If you get your protractor out and see what 7 looks like at the neck, it is one jacked up sumbitch. Some waterhead must have designed that one.