YDoesGodMockMeSo

After receiving the neck, my opinion is that its worth what I paid and that Derek has potential. The neck itself is good, but there are few minor problems that aren't big deals. The minor issues are what I figured would be present in this neck from this builder, since he did it by hand and had little experience. Had it been from another builder that charges $400, I would've been pissed had these been present, but doubt that would've been the case. 1) a couple of the dots aren't aligned properly so it looks like a smiley face. Its not noticeable from afar, but once u get right up in there you see. 2) the veneer on the headstock has some cracking. 3) this is the biggest one. The sides of the neck heel have a bit of a fall. I'm not sure exactly how to describe it, its as if the router went a bit deeper than it should have. It seem as it'll be an easy fix with some putty and sand that down to the rest of the side. 4) the truss rod channel is a bit 'messy', but it'll be covered w/ a truss rod cover so thats not even an issue. Other than needing to be finished/sanded its a good neck. I can't give a review of how it plays/sounds until I can finish up the body w/ some humbuckers. And to be honest. That "due" was BS. It was paid in full, until it was to ship, then the price magically jumped. And shipping was paid for as well ($15 was the quoted price.) But I paid it regardless.

Kevan, Derek and I are working to resolve this situation as quickly as possible..

Re: LazyDerek Almost one year ago, I decided to build my own guitar. (As proven by my Join date: Oct 8 03.) At the time I was completely new to wood working and guitar building, but not to guitars. By November '03, I had decided what guitar I wanted to build and the specs I wanted in my final product. I began pricing wood, tools, and parts for the guitar. I had asked on Project Guitar for locations to get certain wood types, it was at this time Derek Neil (KrazyDerek) offered me some of his extra wood. I wanted an ebony fretboard, and he happened to have extra ebony and offered it to me. I was interested, but voiced my concerns of building my own neck and the cost of the tools to do one properly. This is when Derek offered to build the guitar and neck for me. I stated I wanted to build the guitar myself but was interested in getting a neck done, because of my concerns. I told him what I wanted, in terms of specs and parts. I sent him an AutoCAD file of the design and asked how much he would charge for something like what I planned. He stated that since he was a novice guitar builder and had not completed a neck, he would only charge me for parts because it would be a learning experience for him. I thought, "great" and asked how much it would be. He priced the wood at one of his local wood shops. He came at me with a price of about $70 plus an additional $10-15 for shipping. So I agreed to the price, and began gathering up my funds, which included selling a guitar I never used. At this point my car needed brakes, and my funds got diverted. I told Derek of this, and told him I could have the money by mid-end of decemeber. I also asked if he could start building it and I would buy it from him when I had the money. He said he could not do that, and needed the money up front. I understood. So, I told him that I'd get back to him at the end of December, and I did. We went over the specs and price again, and it came out to $80. On January 2nd, I sent a USPS International Money Order for $85. I sent this via USPS Priority mail, which takes 3-5 days. A week or so later, Derek had received the money and began purchasing the wood for my neck. This was sometime in mid-late January. I told him to take his time, as long as it gone done by Spring Break, and that I would most likely order another one for summer, Which would be the next breaks of time I would have to work on a guitar. As time went on, I would ask for updates and pictures, which he put on his website. In late Feb, he came to me saying he forgot some items on the bill, and would also need measurements of the nut I wanted to use. So, I sent him the new remainder of the bill, $15, and the nut. So March came around and I was getting ancy because I really wanted it done by then so I could work on t. In turns out he forgot to order a router bit he needed and was waiting for that. Of course, I got upset and he apologized saying he should've ordered it before. I agreed. Spring break came and left, and I had no neck. April came and Derek told me the neck would be done and shipped on April 25th. Of course I was overly excited, and mentioned what I wanted on the second neck, so he could at least get a bill ready and possibly start on it. He had told me he had already started roughing it out. So, April 25th came and left, and no neck was shipped. Turns out he was waiting for a ruler or something to get precision grounded. Of course I was upset. I also stated I would not pay for the second neck in full, until it was completed. Derek replied that that was fair. May came and went, no neck. AT the beginning of June, i told him I wanted it by the end of the month no more bullshit. June came and left, no neck. July, no neck. In late August, I talked to Derek about the status of my necks. Now Derek tells me there was a hole for the tuners that was misaligned and that he had to fill it and redrill it. I asked how long its been like that and he replied "a couple of weeks." That he had "been putting it off." I of course was pissed off, his reply was filled with sarcasm, "well the $2 commission I'm making is really the driving factor." At this point, I reminded him that he was the person that set the price. Not me. So to bitch about not making a commission was to bitch at himself. I told him that I was sick of his bullshit and wanted my money and parts back. He said it wouldn't take long to finish and send it off, but that if thats what I wanted he would do it. I stated that I wanted the neck that I had paid for in full, as well as the 2nd neck I had ordered, but did not pay for, but would once I had proof they shipped. I asked how the 2nd was coming along, and said that I doubt it had even been started. He replied stating something about "how can I assume that it hasn't been started without even looking in his garage." I replied that I knew my first one, that I had ordered 9months ago was not finished, and I didn't have to look in his garage. I told him I wanted them done by that friday and shipped the following monday. He said that was not possible for the second neck. So, I said I wanted them both and would give him an extra week to finish them. So the date for completion was September 3rd, and shipped on the 6th. I would not pay for the 2nd neck until I had proof they had shipped, a tracking number. I said I would PayPal as soon as I had that number. He refused, but made a counter offer of me paying after I receive a picture of them being packed for shipping. I refused. He told me to "look at it like this. If I ship and you don't pay, noone will hear from you again. But if you pay and I don't ship, you could cause a scene at PG(Project Guitar)." I replied with "or I could make a scene regardless, about you not completing a neck that was paid for in full 9 months previous." I said I would paypal 1/4 of the price of the neck with a picture, and the rest with a tracking number. He replied "BRB". And he never said anything to me about it. So September 6th comes and goes, and I ask if I could have a tracking number for the neck that shipped, assuming of course it had shipped. Of course, typical Derek, it had not. He was "too busy with school" to ship a neck. He also stated to "not ask" when it would ship. And here we are. Mid-September. I have no neck and a Jackson that was parted out a year ago for this project that does not seem to be coming into fruition. I have since lost hope of actually getting the neck, and most likely my parts and money back from this Canadian. I have started putting my Jackson back together, as well as selling off a chunk of mahagony that I had purchased in hopes to use with the second neck Derek was to build for me. I'm keeping one in the off chance I do actually receive this neck. And of course, after this I REALLY doubt to get my neck, money or parts. Of course, if I don't get something back, everyone here will know about it. I do have Trillian logs of conversatiosn with Derek from Feb 15 to Jul 6. I lost the conversations in August because my HD crashed last week before I had a chance to backup. I may have one or two on my laptop, but I wont have access to that until Friday. I will gladly cut and paste, or email entire file to anyone interested. I also have the stub from the USPS money order for $85 that I can scan in. Including a couple of PMs from Derek in January, concerning the wood choices. To give some perspective of what has happened since January. Just ask yourself, whats happened in 9 months? I know, myself, I started and ended a relationship. My local community college has built 3 new buildings. Friends have graduated, and moved on to college. Megadeth has gone from disbanded to rebanded with a new album. Derek has started and possibly finished 2 custom 7 strings, and whatever else he was working on.So in 9 months, this has all happened, but one neck that was paid for in full has yet to be completed and shipped. Another neck that was ordered 7 months ago, is completely in the air. Here is a link to the neck I ordered: http://www.dreamlandguitars.com/guitars_johncustomneck.html John Navarro "YDoesGodMockMeSo" Sorry if this is messy. I typed it in Notepad, and Cut and Pasted here. (edit: fixed my join date. I thought it was 3rd. I see its 8.)

sorry...need cash..

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Measurements are 20" x 15" x 1.75 thick" Planed and ready for your guitar design. Must sell since the person I commissioned to build me two necks is only doing one....assuming it actually gets done and shipped. I paid $50 + shipping in May. I'll sell for $50 + shipping. OBO. Paypal preferred. Pictures will be up later today. If noone wants it in a couple of days..off to ebay.

Yeah I did a long time ago, they just linked me to another site and tol dme they had parts for sale.

If you have a CopyZone or possibly a Kinkos near you, you can take the CAD file to them and they'll print it out for ya. THey like it to be complete though. Not juts hte model, but a layout page. Call ahead and ask if they can do it, and if so what format they use and page sizes. If you don't know HOW to do that stuff, thats another story. If you catch them on a good day they might take the model and do the rest for ya. When I got one plotted out the gentlemen was in a good mood and a nice guy and he helped me set it up and plotted it.

Well. Since the person I commissioned to build a custom neck for me 9 months ago STILL has yet to finish and ship it. Let alone the other one I wanted as well (I'll explain in another longer post), I've decided to just put my Jackson (which I was using for parts) back together. In the span of 9months I've lost a few screws. If anyone has extra of the following can you PM me? 1 needed, 1 wanted(one is slightly bent but works) long fine threaded screw and spring used for EMG humbuckers to put it on the humbucker ring. a handful of the small screws used to screw in the electronics/trem cover plates. Not needed, but would like 3 new EMG quick connect wires. If anyone has any extras can you PM me and I'll buy them off ya (paypal is an option).

well just make sure you get a completion by/delivered by date..and that the company/person sticks to it.. cuz..you dont wanna be stuck waiting...mm..random number....7+ months..for a neck that you paid for in full. Cuz...that would suck...

..noone said it was....and..nah don't feel like it.

32:1 tuners custom machined and piano wire.. it sounded really bassy :-D

http://media.dsc.discovery.com/fansites/bi...de/episode.html You can click on GUITAR there and check out all the specs and pics.

Its on right now (sunday 9pm central). I'm sure its a rerun and will be on again. Anywho.. I find it interesting how 5 people can build a 30 foot guitar in 5 days (well thats their goal anyway)....and yet it takes 7months for one person to build a regular size neck.... Right, Der-...i mean Guys? Funny don't you guys think?

I hope to have something done by then...of course..it all depends on when I get my neck..... *ponders*

*cough*wishmyneckwasdone*cough* www.guitarbuild.com I believe has a CAD file for a Wilkinson trem. Which you can use to print out and make a template. http://www.guitarbuild.com/modules/mydownl...isit.php?lid=18 Description : Routing template for Wilkinson tremelo manufactured by GOTOH.

www.guitarbuildingtemplates. i believe they have the JEM777 with neck templates there.

solid color or a top (veneer or actual wood)

so....average...2 weeks or so-ish?

What is everyones average build time for a neck? Nothing super fancy (dot inlays, 24 fret, 25.5")

^ i never could either I had to use the TurboCAD from guitarbuild to do that...i'd draw design and all that in AutoCad...and then transfer it to Turbo to get it to print on 4 pages...then i just said screw it...and took the DXF file to a print shop and got it printed out on big ass paper

most people also dont recess a TOM.....

I think the one at warmoth you're confused with is the RECESSED wilkinson route. You can either mount the wilkinson like a strat...and *possibly* need a neck angle.. or you can mount it like a recessed floyd and not need a neck angle..... (or if you just like the look) Oh i see it now... i dunno

is there a button you might need to press?

hey...i'm planning on getting one custom inlay made up for my next neck... interested? just big enough for hte first fret.....i really have no idea what i want... i was thinking a crop circle inlay like Jacksons' or .... i really don't know ..