tseegert Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 I have read thru and searched every site I can find about wiring, to gain a little knowledge, but I still have some questions. I have a mexican strat, 3 single coils, 1 volume, 2 tones. When I first bought this guitar, it was very noisy. I took it to a guy that used to live in town (OHHH where the hell is he when I need em). He wired a "dummy" pup in the back of the guitar... explaining it mimiced a humbucker; it worked, great in fact. Here's the new take on it; I bought a Lil 59 today for the bridge, thinking I'd just scan the schematics, and voila. nay. 1st of all, the 5 way switch I have, has all the conductors in a row, not 4 per side. secondly, the scheme from SD.com is incomplete. for my setup, it says to solder red+white together. Ok, but after theyre connected together, what are they soldered to? Also, the schematic says that each ground lead can be grounded on the back of the volume pot, is that what I'm reading? Last question; now that I have this 59, can I/should I remove the dummy pup from the equation, without gaining too much noise in the remaining single coils? Basically, I'm your run of the mill poor musician trying to save a buck. If anyone can clear this mess up for me, I'll be forever indebted. Also, sorry if I sound like I'm a complete wiring newb... I am Any schematics that are particular to my situation would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks much, Troy. p.s. great website! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseegert Posted October 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 (edited) Also, I seen a link on the tutorials area pertaining to shielding and insulating for optimum noise reduction... I wanted to print it, but I can't find it now. Anyone have a link handy by chance? I apologize for being such a newb p.s. did a search for shielding, and search isn't working for some reason. Edited October 4, 2004 by tseegert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansil Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Here's the new take on it; I bought a Lil 59 today for the bridge, thinking I'd just scan the schematics, and voila. nay. 1st of all, the 5 way switch I have, has all the conductors in a row, not 4 per side. Thats fine it really isnt' a problem different manufactors have different ways of doing things. how many lugs does yours have is it four??? usually then it would be 1 is output and the other three are neck middle and bridge respectively. take your meter set it for continuity and probe them till you find the hot one and look at your switch and determine where you want the neck picup to be ie do you want the switch to switch from bridge to neck like normal [ie we are speaking of going from posisiton 1 to 5 as normal] or do you want it reverse this is the time to decide. secondly, the scheme from SD.com is incomplete. for my setup, it says to solder red+white together. Ok, but after theyre connected together, what are they soldered to? No it isn't incompete there are four conductor wire pickups for humbucking purposes we only use two of the wires one for hot one for ground and the other two connect the two coils together. ie the red and white you solder them together and i usually put heat shrink tubing on them thats it they are connected wires they dont' go anywhere. Also, the schematic says that each ground lead can be grounded on the back of the volume pot, is that what I'm reading? Yes you can take all the ground wires to the pot. or better yet take multilple wires and run them to an eylet and screw that to the shielded guitar body and run the single wire then to a ground point for in effect this will acomplish star grounding might want to read up on star grounding although not 100% nesecarry for guitars shure does help. Last question; now that I have this 59, can I/should I remove the dummy pup from the equation, without gaining too much noise in the remaining single coils? Basically, I'm your run of the mill poor musician trying to save a buck. If anyone can clear this mess up for me, I'll be forever indebted. Also, sorry if I sound like I'm a complete wiring newb... I am Any schematics that are particular to my situation would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks much, Troy. p.s. great website! the dummy pickup is up to you to remove, i woudl try it with it in there, it won't serve its purpose when the humbucker is activated could cause more noise but if you leave it hooked up for the other humbuckers it could be nice. personally there is another way to do this. if you can find a small choke similarly rated and just put it in between the two single coils for neck and middle positions. that way when they are in either or combinations they will be joined with the choke and will notch out some of the hum but when they are together they will not have to worry about that unless they are not out of phase with each other which most of them are usually anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseegert Posted October 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 There are 8 lugs on one side of the switch. Thanks for answering the others for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansil Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 the switch usually has it wired like this.. from top to bottom lug one bridge hotlead lug two middle hot lead lug three neck hotlead output. nc or ouput if you have a special wiring job. coil cutting or fancy extras coil cutting or fancy extras coil cutting or fancy extras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 If you haven't already started disassembling the entire guitar, there's a really simple way to do this - simply disconnect the bridge pickup and install the '59 in its place. Connect the red and white wires, tape them off, and connect the black and green wires where the original pickup was wired in. Simple, easy and nearly foolproof! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseegert Posted October 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Aye Lovekraft, that was the original way I tried it, but I think with all the excess wire, I was getting alot of noise. I went ahead and took the dummy coil out, and wired it according to specs, and it seems to be working fine. However, I'm thinking about putting the dummy pickup back in, this time wired to the neck pickup as the neck is a single coil still... anyone know where I'd put the white and black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 You can try wiring the dummy coil between the neck pickup's ground lead and the guitar's ground ( series) - it should hook up with black to guitar ground, but try it both ways just in case, and go with whichever setup lowers the noise level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseegert Posted October 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Will do, thanks again sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseegert Posted October 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 OHH sweet Seymour Duncan. Got done wiring this baby up, with the dummy coil for the neck position, and... I'm FINALLY in tonal bliss. I wish I could post a sample of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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