silvertonessuckbutigotone Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Ok, I want to do the les paul jr. thing and have just a tuneomatic tailpiece and wrap it around. MY question is, could I use a standard tuneomatic tailpeice and do this or is there a certain type made just for the LP jrs? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryL Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 (edited) You have a few choices but you may not like them very well. A Standard LP Jr. had non-adjustable saddles instead of movable bridge pieces. You can get that style of bridge/Tailpiece cheap at stewmac, Like 12 bucks. They have the wrap-around aluminum bridge/Tail for quite a bit more. They also carry the Baby Grand which is Very Nice But Very Pricey. A standard Tune-O-Matic won't work because you don't have anywhere to fasten the strings.Pigtail Bridge/Tail Baby Grand Gotoh/Wilkinson Edited November 26, 2004 by PerryL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Those that Perry mention are about the options that you have, I love the Aluminum one since is the only one that gives you individual string entonation screws, (in a wrap around, the piano doeas but different). The only other option that you have is to use the TOM and place the strings thru the body, like carvin does. like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 They have the wrap-around aluminum bridge/Tail for quite a bit more. i have that one...haven't used it yet...but it is very light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 I think you're all missing the question: Is it possible to use the *tailpiece* from a standard tune-a-matic bridge setup as a wraparound bridge? The answer is no.... well kinda yes... but no. The only difference between a regular TOM stoptail and one for use as a wraparound bridge is the addition of 2 allen screws to adjust the bridge position. This example also has an integrated compensated saddle, but this was not present on the original. You could faily easily modifiy an existing stoptail, but once you've bought 2 allen head machine screws, and drilled and tapped the tailpiece it'll be cheaper *and* easier to buy the Stew Mac LP junior bridge. Plus, the likely hood of the plating starting to lift around the holes you drill is fairly high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertonessuckbutigotone Posted November 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 crap, I was afraid of that. Does anyone know where I could get a black LP junior bridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slabbefusk Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 One things you have to think about is that if you have a soft wood in the body the bridge can start leaning forward after a while which isnt very good . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javacody Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 (edited) I'm friends with the owner of PigtailMusic (Steve Rowen) and the guy makes some killer products. He's started out with vintage reproductions and is now just getting into regular replacement parts for those of us who believe quality metals in bridges etc. make a better sounding guitar, but who aren't necesarily AVH (**** vintage homos, its a LPF term ). I do his website, forum etc, and so have had a chance to try out his products. Man are they sweet. The tolerances on them are so tight, that you don't need set screws like you have on the tone-pros stuff to keep the tailpiece from wiggling. Also, Steve designed the intonatable tone-pros wraparound and his version is an improved version that you can get direct from him that is even lower profile than the one he designed for tone-pros, you can get it from Allparts and from Stew-Mac as well. Also, he makes OEM parts for some smaller guitar makers. Dan Erlewine is a big fan of Steve's (as am I, if you haven't noticed). Anyway, on a vintage jr. the wrap around tailpiece not only had set screws to adjust intonation, it was v shaped on the top so that the strings had a sharper breaking point (actuall, all of the tailpieces were like this, not just the ones with set screws for intonation). If you buy one of Steve's bridges (which is an exact duplicate of the original 50's aluminum Gibson tailpiece), you get this feature. The guy is just a wizard when it comes to metal. He used to do work for Nasa and has done stuff for assorted defense contractors. Edited November 26, 2004 by javacody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertonessuckbutigotone Posted November 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 does he sell any in black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Anyway, on a vintage jr. the wrap around tailpiece not only had set screws to adjust intonation, it was v shaped on the top so that the strings had a sharper breaking point (actuall, all of the tailpieces were like this, not just the ones with set screws for intonation). If you buy one of Steve's bridges (which is an exact duplicate of the original 50's aluminum Gibson tailpiece) if that is true, those wraparound gibson bridges where not that bad after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javacody Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 He doesn't list any in black on his site, but try emailing or calling him and see what he recommends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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