el pucho Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 This is probably a kinda stupid question, but here goes... I plan on rewiring a Strat with a couple of Push/Pull pots for some extra variations, and also rewire a Les Paul using one of the many Jimmy Page mod's that are around (if anyone has any views on which one is the best, I'd like to know). I'm pretty sure about the parts I need to buy, but I'm a bit unclear about what the correct type of wire to use in each guitar is..Shielded, cloth, non-shielded etc. I'll save all the other stupid questions for later! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockthe40 Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 you should use around 20 guage shielded wire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 See attn: Lovecraft on page 2 of this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertonessuckbutigotone Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 (edited) you mean this subforum, thread means this topic. So heres a link for anyone whos confused http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.php?showtopic=13796 , and I wasn't picking at you doctor, I was jsut trying to save the confusion. Edited January 30, 2005 by silvertonessuckbutigotone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el pucho Posted February 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 (edited) Thanks for the advice guys. I think I have hit a huge problem with the Les Paul though, I was intending to go for one of the Jimmy Page mods (Coil taps, and out of phase options), but luckily I decided I best check my pickups were OK to use (the original pickups are still on it) and I discovered that the pickups have only two wires, and not the 4 I think I need to mod. Is it possible to re-wire the pickup so it has the required 4 wires, and if not is there any possibilties using the 2 wires. Don't tell me I need to buy new pickups if I want to do this mod! Edited February 1, 2005 by el pucho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertonessuckbutigotone Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 I dunno about modding the pickupsto fit your 4-wire needs, but I have looked into building pickups. and it doesnt seem as hard as it would seem to most people. go to electronics tutorials and reference and its pinned i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansil Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 I dunno about modding the pickupsto fit your 4-wire needs, but I have looked into building pickups. and it doesnt seem as hard as it would seem to most people. go to electronics tutorials and reference and its pinned i think. ← you can crack it open and look in there and rewire it to do what you desire. but if you screw up you will need to either buy new pickups or learn how to rewind them.. proceed with caution.. however it is possible to make a nice pickup with a sewingmachine and a spool of wire. if you don't get what i am saying ask your "girlfriends, mommies or wives" how to use it to wind a bobbin for the sewing machine. the plastic ones make great single pickups for special effects or if you do it right a hexpickup. as always, just stopping by on the way back to the gas chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Before you start taking apart those pickups, as my comrades so blithely suggest, can you afford to buy new ones? If you can, then perhaps you should buy some 4 conductor hums to play with, and sell those to defray the costs, and if you can't, be prepared to do without if you dig into the ones you've got. There must be a thousand things that you can do without trying to ruin those humbuckers once you've removed those covers, and the likelihood of you avoiding them all is less than a 50/50 chance. I personally wouldn't risk it unless I could afford to throw them away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el pucho Posted February 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 I think opening the PUPs and attempting to rewire is out of my depth, I really don't want to end up damaging them. As I'm sure you all guessed I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to all this. So I'll have to decide whether to utilise the two wire setup as best I can, or invest in a new set of humbuckers, although I do like the ones I have, even if I'm not entirely sure what they are, just the stock Gibson PAF's I think, I've never changed them. If anyone has any ideas about how best to utilise the PUPs I have, feel free to help out. Thanks again, this advice is invaluable to someone with little experience in guitar electronics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansil Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 if you like the coil cut type sound why not try going with an out of phase sound. there i have a two humbucking setup [did have on my last guitar and will have agian on my current project] it has a three way lespaul switch. and its set up to give me standard lespaul switching.. but then the push pul pot on the volume puts it out of phase. there is quite a bit more to my wiring diagram but as most people will agree i tend to take it a little overboard [LK DID I SAY A LITTLE ]cause i have secret switches on the rear pickguard to rewire the whole tone control section notch filters in the ground system and notch filters on a preset sixway toneknob. anyway i said way too much. combine this with a completely custom active wiring system that is bypassable. each coil is actively controlled. with a seperate coil handwrapped around the stock factory pickup and run through and inverting amplifier similar in principle to how a microphone works. but then my old ibanez had three guages of wire wrapped on its coils with REAL COIL TAPS. that could be combined or used all at once. anyway enough happy juice back to the chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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