bigdguitars Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 I am buying an old wine press to make a clamp out of it.... will post a tutorial on how to convert one of these... this is a great idea!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...me=STRK:MEWN:IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stageleft Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 That is a great idea. I know just where I can get one locally too.....wife is going to pissed about this one, but its too good to pass up, and the couch is pretty comfortable. Thanks a ton (I think) George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdguitars Posted February 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 OH MY GOSH..... this thing is so huge. it will take a full guitar body... this is the greatest thing ever. you know that gizzly luthier clamp? this is like 400x better than that. I look at this on ebay and they are all over the place you can find them for so so cheap? I spent 40 bucks on my last bessy clamp, this does the work of 20 clamps, but these up guys they are the best!!!! I thought that this thing would be smaller or so but its about the size of a 55 gallon drum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay5 Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 No offense, but it looks a little excessive. Not to mention it is only going to exert force in one area in its current configuration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 I don't think thats a good idea at all. This press is only able to exert force in one VERY small area and looks very instable. Even if you find two planes that are hard and stable enough to clamp the wood in between you need to exert force on several places on the planes and not just one. There is a reason for veneer presses.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdguitars Posted February 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 come on guys, I can get two steel plates or wood that is that big enough and then clamp down the sides with other clamps. how many clamps have you found that are this large to actually clamp down the center of the body? I do need to stiffen it up a bit, there is a guy in fine woodworking name silas dekomf or something? he has a buch of these clamps. he uses them for all his veneer work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanKirk Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 That's exactly what Tommy at USACG uses to glue his tops on with. He has a hardwood board at the base and another one on the upper, press side reinforced with some brackets out to the edges. It's PLENTY of force to glue the tops on. Good find! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 I dont' think it's the best way, but I think it's a damn good way. Best way is with a vacuum table, but they take up a lot of room and money, so, this is a good alternative, I might have to build something like that instead of the method I've been using..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dugz Ink Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 i wanted to by me one to (this 1) but i cant figure out how to git the gitar body in the top of that thing. gosh dang big d you gotta be alot smarter than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six_stringer Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 (edited) I made a glue press to use for my fourth guitar. It's my first guitar with a top added on. I got the instructions from the Jaros Custom's website. http://www.jaroscustomguitars.com/build.htm Edited February 17, 2005 by six_stringer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Headen Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Anyone ever tried a gobar deck for gluing tops on? Seems like a very good method to me if you can get the pieces to stay put somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 I am buying an old wine press to make a clamp out of it.... will post a tutorial on how to convert one of these... this is a great idea!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...me=STRK:MEWN:IT ← Well, why not take the idea a step further? You could build your own press using the same "screw down" design --only place a press in four corners so the pressure is more evenly distributed. Seems to me you don't need anything that big either --you could probably convert some pump-action clamps to work with the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 For the last ten years my clamping frames with the several hundred dollars worth of Jorgenson screw clamps have sat in a corner unloved and unused 'cause I built a vacuum press. This will glue any wierd twisted or irregular shape as well as nice flat ones. I run a venturi vacuum pump off of my compressor and it can put as much as 1700 lbs per square on the wood if I need it. It also sucks the moisture right out of the glue and thus cuts down on your clamp time. If I was gluing up a flat top or arch top I wouldn't use it, 'cause it would squish 'em flat, but solid bodies are perfect for this method. There are a number of websites that the guys that mke this stuff have up. Fine Woodworking magazine has had innumerable articles. My basic setup probably cost me 250.00 bucks US and I have a 5' x 9' table! I could press 8 bodies at once if I had lost what is left of my mind. This technique will absolutely flat press anything. To date I have had 0 glue line failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdguitars Posted February 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 what type of plastic do you use? I don't have room for a 5x9 table but sounds very interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdguitars Posted March 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 ok here is the modded wine press clamp... this thing is awesome. I can clamp 4 to 5 bodies at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nollock Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Why not buy a few of these... http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=22374&recno=2 chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdguitars Posted March 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 same difference. you still have to build a frame to hold these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Sorry I missed your last post. I make my bags out of 20 or 30 mil pvc sheeting. I glue two opposite sied and leave the ends open. This way I can adjust the size. I make two end clamps out of 1' pvc water pipe. Cut about a 1/4' slot down the length of one. Fold the bag into it and squeeze another one into the crease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddler68 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 They use this method for gluing bookmatched tops together, but it looks like the wedges they're using would work well for gluing the top to the body. Grizzly catalog - bottom of page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdguitars Posted March 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I saw that in my catalog, I thought that this example might work but I was not so sure that it would get all of the seams correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddler68 Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 I saw that in my catalog, I thought that this example might work but I was not so sure that it would get all of the seams correct? ← Yeah, you'd have to use a lot more clamps on the edges. What always concerns me is getting the center clamped down tightly enough. The Grizzly method looks like it would work great and is very low tech. Exactly what I look for in a jig! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 Nice D, I like it. I don't like toping the blank complete, I cut the back then glue it to the top, but that wine press came out very nice indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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