Maelstrom Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 I'm thinking of swirling my rg7620 body and was wondering how the basswood will answer to when I dip the body into the water, how should I prepare it? And I read something about not using regular clear laquer, what should I use then? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 You have to COMPLETELY seal the entire body, everywhere, if water can get it, it will react badly. This means a complete seal with (preferably) Poly urethane, and fill ALL screw holes, neck holes, etc with wax or something. If water can get it, it will, and it will cause problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 That different I didn't think Poly urethane made a very good Primer,sealer,bonder I've been using X-I-M and bullseye and they worked fine for me, then again I don't do many swirl's, just messing around to see if I like the color combination (then I usually strip it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third eye Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 i 'm thinking of swirling a 7620 myself a question i've had in my mind lately is if it wasn't completely sealed(it would be anyway but just in case you missed a spot or something) wouldn't the paint on top of the water add a layer before the body touches the actual water thereby sealing it from the water anyway?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 Still wet isn't it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third eye Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 but would the paint's moisture really matter? the body has obviously been wet by something near the paints consistency before(when you put the first coat of whatever on the body) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 actually the point is to seal the body first, standard sanding sealer made for doing just that will work just fine for the purpose of being around moisture. If water should be able to invade the pours of the wood your at a high risk of swelling and cracking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third eye Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 but that's my point- isn't the sanding sealer moisture based anyway?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 Most of the sanding sealers I've used are not water soluble if that's what your asking plus they dry very fast in open air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third eye Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 oh ok, thanks i gotta learn sometime or another right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 The biggest problem is in the screw holes, pickguard screws, pickup mounting screws etc. those are the area's that will get you in trouble. The problem is, if the water gets in those holes, and swells, you get a crack. One other thing that I'll mention, due to the amount of people trying swirling, and I hate the thought of many cracked bodies, is consider your water temperature as well. Cold tap water is NOT acceptable, you'd be surprised how much and how fast the wood will more, CRACK. Room temp is about right. I still stand firm in the send it to ATD for a swirl ideal, I personally am against the swirling tutorial, but, in order to try and have people not ruin bodies, make sure it's all sealed, and make sure the water isn't icy cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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