xbonez182 Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Hey, just wondering, how would I go about doing a two tone paint job like you see on cars? I heard it's pearlescent paint but thats about all I know Bobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJo T. Magnifficent Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 dont think thats perlecent, casue thats just the shiny metallic kinda colour. they are called 2 toned paints i believe. i dont know anything bout them really though, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I have no idea what you're talking about, 2 tone on cars refers to 2 colors of paint, like an upper and lower color separated by a masked edge. Pearls have nothing to do with 2 tone (unless it's pearl paints of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzocchi705 Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Could it be Flip trip paint you are refering too. On thes cars does the colour change depending on the angle its veiwed at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korge Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 hes talking bout the Mirage paint.. I use it alot for detail work, comes at 17 bucks a can.. the paint takes long to do too, its a 3 part step... Black, Shifting color, Clear... so if you looking in to doing a whole guitar expect to buy about 3 of those packs.. the sad part is that you cant get the paint in singles, they only come by packs... and its most likely thhat youll only need the shift pain and not all the black and clear... Heres a link to the product... its some good stuff, but at 17 bucks, i dont use it alot.. http://www.duplicolor.com/products/mirage.html Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzocchi705 Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Yeh, flip trip paint... Same thing Thats what its called up here, in freezing Scotland. Where the sun shines when your in school and starts to rain at 3.25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 hes talking bout the Mirage paint.. I use it alot for detail work, comes at 17 bucks a can.. the paint takes long to do too, its a 3 part step... Black, Shifting color, Clear... so if you looking in to doing a whole guitar expect to buy about 3 of those packs.. OMG you are waisting a lot of paint. I did my LP top, and have about 3/4 of the mirage paint, and I did put 3 coats of it. And you can use any of the duplicolor clears to top it, you don't need to buy the whole kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbonez182 Posted April 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Hey thanks for the replies, been really helpful. Can anyone tell me any UK distributors of these products? Bobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korge Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 you don't need to buy the whole kit. ← Actually , you do.. unless your going to pull the can out of the pack and stick it in your jacket and walk out the store.. it only comes in packs of 3 for 17.50 in the US.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 that mirage paint looks crappy compared to the real color shift paint, but the real deal stuff is a couple hundred dollars a pint Honestly, the mirage is ok, but it's nothing as vibrant as chameleon paint is. $17 for a kit of all 3 cans is dirt cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 you don't need to buy the whole kit. ← Actually , you do.. unless your going to pull the can out of the pack and stick it in your jacket and walk out the store.. it only comes in packs of 3 for 17.50 in the US.. ← Dude, I meant that you don't need to buy 3 more kits to finish it. One is enough for the black and mirage paint, then buy any dupli clear to d othe clearing, not like you posted to buy 3 mirage kits. Read a little more, since I explain it on the post. Jeremy, can you shot the ALSA or HOK kameleons with and airbrush? Are these bad too like the clears that I need a booth, or can they be done outside with a respirator? At $99 a pint I might try this one as soon as I get back from Korea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 They're a typical base coat paint, you can spray them with a carbon filter mask, it's the clears that are brutal. You can spray with an airbrush, but as with any paint with a metallic particle you'll need a large tip and heavy flow. You are way further ahead to spray it with a touch up gun over an airbrush. I haven't tried the Alsa stuff yet, but I'm almost 100% sure the HOK stuff is well over $100 a pint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 I was pretty sure http://www.autopaintersupply.com/Merchant2...ategory_Code=KF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 I know they are very expensive. I have been to a few sites and recieve the Eastwood mag, and they are very pricey. I know they might be worth the price, but as of now, I can afford it, and the guitars I'm making are my own, so I ain't getting any profit, just pleasure on making them. If you have a chance, or meet anybody that have used it, please let me know. Like I said I will be away for a year starting July and plan on getting a small compressor set and a touch up gun. Can you clear with nitro over HOK? 'cause I think if you can, then it will be good over the alsa too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 you can use nitro, but I don't recommend it at all, especially with the chameleon paints, they are developed specifically for use with the 2 part urethane, if you can't clear with that yourself take it to a body shop and have it done. The nitro will mess with it more than it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 I'll take that into consideration. I know it is expensive, and I understand the need to charge for your work, but I waent to a local shop, and asked them to do that with the 7 string that I did, and they wanted $100 just for the clear, and I had to do the colorsanding and polishing. And it was at the same time as he was doing a car, so he didn't had to mix just for my guitar, it was with the left overs on every coat. Maybe I will just save more money whaile I'm over there and get me a paint booth too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 $100 isn't bad if they lay on a nice coat, when you consider the clear is around $300 a gallon. However, when it's just coats after the car is done, seems a little high, especially when you have to do the final sand and buff. Oh, under NO circumstances should you color sand this stuff, I don't get why people ever color sand anything to start with but do NOT color sand Kameleon paints. Usually most body shops charge $50 when they're doing it along with a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 I know about color sanding, I never color sand base coats, especialy metalics, and pearls. (I think kamaleon q. as a pearl) since it will mess up with the lay of the flakes and the shimmer of the pearl. I just sand the clear if it turns out that I lay to thick and it has some orange peel. I make sure that the primer is as smooth as I can get it before doing a color coat, and then that one is usualy sprayed until even coverage is atain, and no orange peel is present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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