GEdwardJones Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 For those of us without a sprayer. Which brands of good ol' spray cans would you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfish Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 i've never really had trouble with brands.just, i like to only use 2 thirds of the can to stop splattering. shake like a madman, for best results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 another hint, warm some water on the stove to about 75degrees F. place the bottom of the can in about 1.5" of water and let it sit for a few minutes, it just warms the paint to room temp and it will spray and level a lot nicer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 Or move to Florida where the weather will warm it up for you Don't forget to get one of those el-cheapo $1.89 carosel's from Walmart to lay the body on so you can spin it around as you paint. It does require a small block of wood for support but those things work great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerealk Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 Or move to Florida where the weather will warm it up for you Not always the cheapest option for everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 Or move to Florida where the weather will warm it up for you Not always the cheapest option for everyone Or even a plausible option for some of us I WANNA LIVE IN THE US!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 Geting back to the original question though I found Testor's model paint to have the most options, Krylon to be the best for spraying in my area and Rust-Oleum runs quicker than the average person after a buffet at a cheap mexican resturant................ What I'm having a problem finding is a true metal flake paint like I used on the Jungle Jem, Plasti-cote makes it in europe but not over here. As an option for now I found sparkle fleck paint in the craft section of Wal-mart and I use a candy apple color over that. It works but it's just a hassle. Hope this helps you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SprocketBoy Posted November 21, 2002 Report Share Posted November 21, 2002 Iv found Plasti-kote works petty well. You can find some pretty nice colors in automotive paints. I get mine from Pepboys..... but as the late great painter Bob Ross always said..."its your own little world" lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Posted November 21, 2002 Report Share Posted November 21, 2002 Hello guys! Maybe i'm stupid for saying this, but you can use plain old spray paint on guitars??? Does it look good? Do you have to put clear/laquer over it to make it look nice, deep, and glossy? Or does it always just look cheap? Do you still have to use sanding sealer on the wood, then start painting? See, i have a guitar that i may stain very soon, but if i could just paint it with spray cans and get a good-looking finish out of it, then i'd rather do that! Please help ! Thanks! Ben p.s. could someone maybe just post an instructional about how to do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 21, 2002 Report Share Posted November 21, 2002 Hi Ben and welcome to the forum! Of course it's possible to use plain old spray cans and get a killer finish. Your still going to have to top coat the guitar to polish it up with some sort of clear but with a little elbo grease and some time you would be surprised at the results you can get. Start by either sealing the wood with a sealer or primer. That may take 2 or more coats, just remember the smoother the base finish is the fewer problems you will experiance towards the end of your project. Also allow plenty of dry time, most manufactures will say something like drys to touch in 12 minutes, blow that off right away and wait at least 1/2 a day if not more............... BTW there is no such thing as a stupid question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEdwardJones Posted November 21, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2002 What about painting over an existing finish? Y'know the cool thing about this place? I can ask a bunch of nagging questions that I've always had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 21, 2002 Report Share Posted November 21, 2002 Just be sure to dull it before hand by wet or dry sanding with a fine grit paper to give the paint something to hold on to on the surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted November 21, 2002 Report Share Posted November 21, 2002 and spray your first coats on very light, it reduces your chances of having a paint incompatibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Posted November 22, 2002 Report Share Posted November 22, 2002 Hello again! More questions... Okay, so i went to Wal Mart a little while ago and checked out their paints... i went to automotive and found a "chrome" paint. I tryed it out on a piece of cardboard, and walked off for about 10 minutes while it dried a little. When i came back and looked at it, i was impressed with the results! It wasn't mirror chrome by any stretch, but it was a nice, foggy-mirror silver. It wasn't fit for a Chromeboy, but i still liked it a LOT!!! Here's the deal.... all that it said on the can was ' Enamel ". it said on the can that it was reccomended for trim and accessories... would this pose any problems??? Could i still use it on a guitar if i put sanding sealer on the body, and got it to a nice, smooth finish, then put clear coat on top of it? I had been thinking about painting the guitar green, but i would like this, too! Here's another question... In the automotive section, i also found an acrylic laquer aerosol clear coat. Would this offer a great, tough, SHiNY protective coat if i put enough coats on the guitar? Thanks for the help, guys!!!!!!! Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted November 22, 2002 Report Share Posted November 22, 2002 if it's an enamel, try to find a clear coat by the SAME manufacturer, in an enamel, enamel's are fricken weird paints. They are notorius for reacting with other paints and never drying, always remaining a sticky gooey mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 22, 2002 Report Share Posted November 22, 2002 I have wasted a ton of money trying to get a chrome paint to actually look like chrome and clear coated over. If you prep the surface so that it is baby smooth to begin with your going to love what it looks like till you try to paint the other side. The Chromes always seem to work best in very light mist coats with a few hours between each coat to the next but just like Jeremy said they can and will turn into a sticky gooey mess in a heart beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Posted November 22, 2002 Report Share Posted November 22, 2002 Oog Well, that certainly doesn't sound good. Brian, what did you mean that i'll love how it looks till i try to paint the other side? How did the chromes that you did turn out? Like i said, i'm not expecting the guitar to come out looking like liquid mercury or anything. Does it retain that silver, foggy-mirror look that i saw and described? If so, thats fine by me. Also, would that aerosol acrylic enamel clear-coat that i found work? Thanks for the help, as always !!! Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted November 22, 2002 Report Share Posted November 22, 2002 Dude, take it from me! Don't use the chrome paint on a guitar!!!! It looks o.k. for a little while, but will crack, flake, and turn green in no time at all!!! If you are interested in making a chrome guitar finish, I know of a website where a guy has been doing it for years. Chrome guitar I was going to try it with an Ibanez iceman, but haven't had the time (or the finances) Let me know what you think & good luck! Dave K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Posted November 22, 2002 Report Share Posted November 22, 2002 Nasty, thanks for the tip, Dave. Yeah, i've seen that guy that chromes guitars. haha, but really, if i'm asking questions about spraypaint, do you think i could afford that ??? An Iceman would look really sweet, though. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Nickelson Posted November 22, 2002 Report Share Posted November 22, 2002 As for Girls, Guns, and Guitars (the plating website), it's a requirement that the guitar must be factory level painted BEFORE they will plate it. One day I might consider their services. Gabe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 23, 2002 Report Share Posted November 23, 2002 Well the problems I've had are two fold......... First is the over spray problem, when you go to paint the other side it always leave's an oversprayed edge between the side's that never really seems to go back to looking like the chrome. The second problem and the hardest so far is when ever I cleared over the stuff it just turned grey with no mirror look to it at all. Might have been the paints I was using but I haven't been able to clear over one yet even using the same brand for the base, chrome and clear top coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Posted November 23, 2002 Report Share Posted November 23, 2002 Well poo, Brain. AH well, thanks for the info, it saved me some frustration! Okay, i have some more questions! Has anyone tried doing a candy-apple-type finish with aerosol by spraying, say, a coat of silver, then another colour on top of it? Would that work? I found a product by Platicote today that was a PPG-type finish { colour-changing, like the Mystic Dream paint job on the EB/MM JPM guitars}. It was emerald green/copper, it looked SO great! It even said that it was usable on wood! You had to buy the base and clear coat seperately. Here's the thing, though... a while back, a company { which i probably shouldn't name...} had a similar paint. I saw the results on a motorcycle helmet, and it really looked like shyte. Does anyone know if this is any better? Thanks! Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 24, 2002 Report Share Posted November 24, 2002 Now that's do-able Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Posted November 24, 2002 Report Share Posted November 24, 2002 Which is do-able? The candy-apple or the Plasticote colour-change? If you're talking about the candy-apple, please give me some info about candy-apple finishes. I don't know a whole lot about them, but the ones i've seen are SWEET. What would happen if i did silver under green? Or could i do yellow under green to make the green brighter? See, i'm really wanting bright metallic green, like, grass/leaf green, or the colour of a real emerald or jade. There was a limited run of Schecters in this colour this year or last year. I don't want it to be as acidic as, say, Grabber Green, or Loch Ness Green, just a nice, bright green, preferably metallic. I can't seem to find any greens that are bright enough, though, so thats why i was wondering. Thanks! Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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