Duff Beer Man Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Just curious if anyone has ever seen an All Maple Les Paul? Im gonna make a les paul for my next project just wondering what everyone would think of one. It would be Ultra curly maple top Semi curly maple body Ultra curly maple neck Opinions? Yes? No? Also anyone got an idea what kinda tone would come out of the thing? Quote
Pr3Va1L Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 and it would sound horrible and NOT AT ALL like an LP Seriously... there's a reason why there are *very* few all maple guitars. Only I know of is the Lynch ESP pro model(s) Quote
Drak Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Some ideas should be left on the drawing board, never to see the light of day. This is one of those. Quote
jamesj Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 and it would sound horrible and NOT AT ALL like an LP Seriously... there's a reason why there are *very* few all maple guitars. Only I know of is the Lynch ESP pro model(s) ← Some hollow body Rickenbackers are all maple. not sure about the solid bodies... Quote
westhemann Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Seriously... there's a reason why there are *very* few all maple guitars. Only I know of is the Lynch ESP pro model(s) sorry,bud...you are just a little clueless... there are a ton of all maple guitars on the market...alot of them in the metal scene from as far back as judas priest. i am not a fan of all maple guitars...they are a bit "harsh" for me....but to say they sound horrible is just untrue.once again it is all preference. a maple lp?well...i think making it semi hollow would help tame the harshness. Quote
thegarehanman Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Make the body figured mahogany with a curly maple top and neck and you'll be in better shape, tone wise. But if you like the twang... Quote
Duff Beer Man Posted August 25, 2005 Author Report Posted August 25, 2005 I kinda thought it would be a bad idea, just wondered if anyone has every seen one, what do you guys mean by harsh, like what exactly kinda tone would come out of the thing. Quote
Southpa Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 (edited) I just finished an all maple telecaster (body is bigleaf maple and neck is eastern maple) it sounds just fine, no "twang" to speak of. You might get that result if the body was made from eastern maple (waste of wood) , but bigleaf (wrn. maple) is much softer and lighter. Edited August 25, 2005 by Southpa Quote
fryovanni Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Are you talking about western curly or eastern hard curly? Big tonal difference. I think if it were me I would prefer a contrasting body wood (as far as looks go). Having Maple Maple Maple may distract from the look of the figured top and back. All that aside nothing wrong with going a different direction with a design. Peace,Rich Quote
Curtis P Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 isnt Kirk Hammets guitar an all maple one?? we all know and love his tone, so it cant be that bad Curtis Quote
28if Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Where's the maple love, guys? I think maple makes a great tone wood. I think most Rics are maple, and I know I've heard of other all maple guitars. My first project was a maple solid body with a couple of strat pups in it. Sounds great. Defenity brighter than an ash or alder strat, but still very nice, and different too. Isn't too harsh or twangy at all. I think an all maple LP would sound alright. Different than a regular LP, for sure though. Like someone else said, it might be better to go with a darker wood for the back, just to have a little more contrast there. Or maybe just a darker finish on the back? Duno. Good luck with whatever you decide. Quote
MzI Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Kirks guitars are alder with maple neck thru. There is nothing wrong with all maple guitars. They are great for down tuning because they retain that clarity you loose with warmer tone woods. Plus if you throw a set of passive mid range output pickups like paf's or 59s you have a great rock guitar. In comparison ill let everyone know how my solid purple heart guitar sounds in bout a week. MzI Quote
Pr3Va1L Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 I have been thinking about one thing... How would a mahogany neck/1 piece maple body sound? I would guess a little brighter than a maple topped maple neck guitar? Quote
MzI Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Basically yes. I personally would do a mahogany body over a mahogany neck though. A half maple half mahogany body would tone it down more then say a mahogany neck. Another way to tone it down is to use a Rosewood board over ebony. MzI Quote
westhemann Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Kirks guitars are alder with maple neck thru. the ltd kirk is all maple for some reason...the original is alder http://espguitars.com/guitars_kirk.htm the real mystery to me is why not offer an original alder bodied neck thru esp(not ltd)that isn't already all scarred up...and why charge over $4000 for the scarred up version? Quote
crafty Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 All of the ESP KH models are Custom Shop pieces, so you could probably still order a non-distressed version or even the old ouija board finish as well. $4299 MSRP for a relic'd axe is a bit much, IMHO. Quote
westhemann Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 $4299 MSRP for a relic'd axe is a bit much, IMHO. especially considering the only difference between it and the $2300 one is the neck thru and some scratched paint and worn out stickers. you realize the ouija board finish was way after the original kh? i remember when the very first kh hit the market(the non stressed version of the kh-2 vintage) my buddy put one on lay-a-way...he never finished paying for it though for some reason that i can't remember. Quote
Scott Rosenberger Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 just order a neckthru M2 with skull inlays and emg's Quote
westhemann Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 just order a neckthru M2 with skull inlays and emg's ← $5000 excuse me..$4550 Quote
Kith Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 An all maple SOLID BODY guitar would probably sound very bright, and it would probably be pretty heavy. it would have great sustain. if you make it, please post pics. Quote
blackburncustomguitars Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Hi, Don't let anybody stop you from making something you really want to experiment with. I would suggest that you chamber the body, and if that doesn't ease the "brightness" enough, add a neck of mahogany or black korina. I made a LP type with a chambered naturally-stained maple body, black korina/pao ferro neck, and 490/498 pickups, amd seasoned Lp players loved it. It found a very happy home. Used an oil finish, too. So you CAN break some of the rules! Peace, DaveJust curious if anyone has ever seen an All Maple Les Paul? Im gonna make a les paul for my next project just wondering what everyone would think of one. It would be Ultra curly maple top Semi curly maple body Ultra curly maple neck Opinions? Yes? No? Also anyone got an idea what kinda tone would come out of the thing? ← Quote
thegarehanman Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 He didn't ask about chambered guitars, he didn't ask about other types of woods, he specifically stated his aims. Yes, but what good does it do him if we simply say "no?" The alternatives we offer are simply that: alternatives. He can compare what we say an all maple guitar will do compared to [say] a chambered or mahogany backed guitar and then go from there. No one said "you can't," but rather, "you shouldn't." And the tone he gets from an all maple guitar could very well be his cup of tea, but every one knows what an ol' fashioned LP sounds like and if he expects that tone, well then he's been misinformed. my 1.5 cents peace, russ Quote
fryovanni Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Hey Drak, Your answer was to the directly to the point and on topic. Also, I answered the specific question he asked. Anyone here could make recommendations about wood switches, but that's not what he asked, I stayed directly on topic, and an all-Maple guitar would be a boat anchor and sound like crap IMO. When you say all Maple guitar. Are you thinking hard, soft, possible mix of the two or just wouldn't make any difference (Maple Bad- at least in this situation). I think I have remember reading in a thread your opinion of western Maple was not so hot, and all Hard Maple would be pretty bright and hefty. Peace, Rich Quote
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