guitarded Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 i searched the forum, but i didn't come across what i was looking for... i just got a stewmac neck template? on their site it says that it is about .040 wider than standard to compensate for the finish. has anyone used this template with a finished warmoth neck and, if so, how was the fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarded Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 ok, i guess no one has has used the stewmac neck template. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay5 Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 I know Drak uses the stewmac template and Warmoth necks. As **** as he is about perfection, I imagine they work very well together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Actually not! The original neck template that I ordered about 10 years ago is a PERFECT fit for almost any neck I throw at it, Warmoth included, except it's getting old now, and has developed a warp in the plexiglass (it humps up, or bows up, a little, in the middle...still usable, but a little difficult now) Anyway, I ordered another one last year to take it's place, and come to find out, the pocket on the new one is wider/bigger than my old one, wide enough to make an appreciable difference, and I have not used it for a single guitar, the old one is a perfect fit, and I use Warmoth necks a lot too. Call them up and see if they will cut you one to the old specs, those are purrrrrfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarded Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 drak, even with the finish, the neck pockets is too big? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay5 Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Hmmm, good to know. You CAN make your own template. A neck pocket template isnt too hard to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmrentis Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Anyway, I ordered another one last year to take it's place, and come to find out, the pocket on the new one is wider/bigger than my old one, wide enough to make an appreciable difference, and I have not used it for a single guitar, the old one is a perfect fit, and I use Warmoth necks a lot too. How much bigger? Would using one of those brass collars on the router make up for the difference maybe or would that not work? I'm sure it would be hard to find one that made up the difference perfectly, as I know how precise the pocket must be, but if you did find one that would be an easy fix, that is if it would work, which I have no clue because the collar sticks down right? And the neck and pickups routes are shallow so the collar might prevent you from cutting shallow like that, I don't really know . But having a proper neck template would be nice, I might make one for myself, considering I'm making my own neck I can fit the neck heel according to the pocket, but even so a nice template would be safer and easier. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarded Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 well, the stewmac site says its .040 wider to allow for the finish applied to the neck. yeah, i will go ahead and make my own templates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanb Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 (edited) Interesting. I would also like to know "how much bigger" the new template is. Since the template is made for a Strat neck, is the template too big, or are the Warmoth necks too small? I wonder if the change was made to add more room for finish buildup. Oops. Never mind, I just saw your response... Edited September 13, 2005 by ryanb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarded Posted September 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 ryanb, good question about the warmoth neck being too small or the template being too big, however, according to the stewmac site, the template is intentially made wider. go here and scroll down a bit to see about why the template is a bit oversized... Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdw3332 Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Here's my Tele - I just did the neck rout tonight. I used the link here and it worked great. Neck Pocket Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xebryusguitars Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Well if you wanna buy the template and stemac wont make it to the old size, than wrap a piece of thin masking tape around the bearing to make the neck pocket a little thiner. It would make a small difference but probably enough to not rob you of the ammount of tone you're losing from having a lose neck pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay5 Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 I've heard of people using aluminum tape on a bearing bit (making sure not to overlap the edges) to make a bearing a bit larger. Might work, but who knows. I would just make your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Well if you wanna buy the template and stemac wont make it to the old size, than wrap a piece of thin masking tape around the bearing to make the neck pocket a little thiner. It would make a small difference but probably enough to not rob you of the ammount of tone you're losing from having a lose neck pocket. ← This is the recomendation that Stew Mac gives on their templates. I got mine done with masking tape and it worked perfectly! I did a small scrap test to make sure I would have a tight fit, and it took about 3 full wraps around the bearings to got me on the right spot for a Carvin neck, and 1 for a Jackson, so test on scrap for your Warmoth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugman96 Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 (edited) I just got the stewmac template...my concern was the length of the pocket on the template which 4.5" while the warmoth site says the neck pocket should be 3". Does this have something to do with the bearings on the router bit? EDIT: I figured it out from looking at another thread. Edited October 31, 2005 by bugman96 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlrhett Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Well if you wanna buy the template and stemac wont make it to the old size, than wrap a piece of thin masking tape around the bearing to make the neck pocket a little thiner. It would make a small difference but probably enough to not rob you of the ammount of tone you're losing from having a lose neck pocket. ← I have a Stewmac template and can tell you that it works much better for me to line the template with tape (4-6 layers of masking tape) then to wrap the bit. I find that the tape will not stay on the bearing and your are bound to make a mistake. NOTE: Masking tape comes in a variety of thicknesses. Do not assume that one wrap for one person will work for you! Only trial and error will get you where you need to be, so break out the scrap wood. Now if only Stewmac had made a STANDARD sized Fender jig, rather than being a little too cool for their own good, we wouldn't be having this conversation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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