AlGeeEater Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Now, I know that you can paint acrylic lacquer over nitro lacquer, but i'm not sure if I can clear over the acrylic with nitro again. Basically, I am samwiching the acrylic with nitro. I have already sprayed the white base of nitro, and I'm planning on using Dupli-Color metallic blue paint(basically i'm still on the fence about mixing metallics so far). I wan't to clear over that with my McFadden nitro. Would this work or would it cause some sort of problem? The only reason I'm not testing anything is it's humid as @$$ up here and should be for a few more days. P.S.-I REALLY don't wan't to EVER use Dupli-Color clear again, so if I can't clear over the acrylic with nitro just tell me and I will figure something out. Thank's guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar2005 Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 I'm planning on using Dupli-Color metallic blue paint(basically i'm still on the fence about mixing metallics so far). I wan't to clear over that with my McFadden nitro. Would this work or would it cause some sort of problem? The only reason I'm not testing anything is it's humid as @$$ up here and should be for a few more days. P.S.-I REALLY don't wan't to EVER use Dupli-Color clear again, so if I can't clear over the acrylic with nitro just tell me and I will figure something out. Thank's guys ← I would avoid the Dupli Color line of products. Their product does not cure well. I've been waiting 3 months for one of my project to cure (Black base, White pattern, clear). If you really need the metallic paint, try to find an alternative. Doesn't re-ranch have metallics? F.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlGeeEater Posted September 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 I'm planning on using Dupli-Color metallic blue paint(basically i'm still on the fence about mixing metallics so far). I wan't to clear over that with my McFadden nitro. Would this work or would it cause some sort of problem? The only reason I'm not testing anything is it's humid as @$$ up here and should be for a few more days. P.S.-I REALLY don't wan't to EVER use Dupli-Color clear again, so if I can't clear over the acrylic with nitro just tell me and I will figure something out. Thank's guys ← I would avoid the Dupli Color line of products. Their product does not cure well. I've been waiting 3 months for one of my project to cure (Black base, White pattern, clear). If you really need the metallic paint, try to find an alternative. Doesn't re-ranch have metallics? F.M. ← Did you even bother to read my post? I'm not using all dupli-color. I just need their "ford blue" or whatever. I know how junky Dupli is, I've used it many times in the past. It's crappy paint. I said I never wanted to use it again. But yes, ReRanch does have some I think. I'll check it out. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 watch your tone,algee...you should realize that even as a color coat under a different clear,whether or not the duplicolor cures properly is very important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlGeeEater Posted September 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 watch your tone,algee...you should realize that even as a color coat under a different clear,whether or not the duplicolor cures properly is very important. ← Tone? Yeah, I know about that. I DO have a heatlamp. I am however concerned with acrylic lacquer and how much softer it is than nitro. Maybe I will just get the reranch stuff. It is nitro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Tone? don't play the chump with me.you know very well i was reffering to this. Did you even bother to read my post? you ask for help and insult the poster...you know better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlGeeEater Posted September 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Tone? don't play the chump with me.you know very well i was reffering to this. Did you even bother to read my post? you ask for help and insult the poster...you know better than that. ← Ehh? Maybe that came across wrong, I don't know. I wasn't trying to insult him. It just seemed he didn't read my post. I probaly should have written it a different way. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar2005 Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 I'm planning on using Dupli-Color metallic blue paint ← ... later ... Did you even bother to read my post? I'm not using all dupli-color. Thanks ← I read the post - It says that you plan on using dupli color - I say don't use it, try something else... Geez, what's with the attitude... just trying to help. Not only is it a bad idea to use dupli, it is also a bad idea to put it under a different brand / type of lacquer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlGeeEater Posted September 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 I'm planning on using Dupli-Color metallic blue paint ← ... later ... Did you even bother to read my post? I'm not using all dupli-color. Thanks ← I read the post - It says that you plan on using dupli color - I say don't use it, try something else... Geez, what's with the attitude... just trying to help. Not only is it a bad idea to use dupli, it is also a bad idea to put it under a different brand / type of lacquer. ← Good. I plan on doing 3 coats max with it. Well, you keep saying it's a bad idea, but why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 The nice thing about finishing guitars for us furniture guys is that they aren't very big. Maybe four square feet. The bad things are that they have a lot of edges, which are tough to deal with and they get the crap beat out of them. One of the things that you have to worry about with things that get beaten is intercoat adhesion. This is why I don't like one part polyurethane. It has intercoat adhesion problems all by itself. When you switch back and forth and sandwich stuff in between coats of other stuff you always run the risk that they won't quite bond together and you'll get chipping and flaking. Maybe even the whole coat peeling off. It can also make it harder to rub out without problems. None of these are good things. I always try to use the same type of product all the way through if possible. I'd use whatever the hardest part to deal with in your finishing scheme is all the way through. If your color only is available in one type of finsih use the same thing for your clear. If you are primarily concerned about the performace of your clear find a color in that formulation and go with it. Etc.,etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlGeeEater Posted September 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 The nice thing about finishing guitars for us furniture guys is that they aren't very big. Maybe four square feet. The bad things are that they have a lot of edges, which are tough to deal with and they get the crap beat out of them. One of the things that you have to worry about with things that get beaten is intercoat adhesion. This is why I don't like one part polyurethane. It has intercoat adhesion problems all by itself. When you switch back and forth and sandwich stuff in between coats of other stuff you always run the risk that they won't quite bond together and you'll get chipping and flaking. Maybe even the whole coat peeling off. It can also make it harder to rub out without problems. None of these are good things. I always try to use the same type of product all the way through if possible. I'd use whatever the hardest part to deal with in your finishing scheme is all the way through. If your color only is available in one type of finsih use the same thing for your clear. If you are primarily concerned about the performace of your clear find a color in that formulation and go with it. Etc.,etc. ← Thank you! I guess I will have to figure out a different way to go about it then. Maybe I will try my first shot at mixing and spraying metallics. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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