AlGeeEater Posted October 5, 2005 Report Posted October 5, 2005 Well, I read about using natural oil based manual transmission oil as a natural finish. Now, I don't know if I buy this. Suppositly it's been around since the 70's. Can you guys clear this up for me? I just don't believe it. I tried searching google but found nothing. Ever hear of it? Thanks Quote
balooka Posted October 5, 2005 Report Posted October 5, 2005 hmmm never heard of it, but i had my transmission oil changed the other week and while i was there the dude just fnished putting the goo in, didnt smell to fancy... I wouldnt use it lol Quote
ryanb Posted October 5, 2005 Report Posted October 5, 2005 Absolutely not! That is a very, very, very bad idea. It will never dry. It will smell bad. It will probably discolor, and definitely ruin your guitar. Not to mention that it is a carcinogen. There are plenty of good oil finishes around, but transmission oil is not one of them. Quote
AlGeeEater Posted October 5, 2005 Author Report Posted October 5, 2005 (edited) Yeah, I don't plan on using it; EVER!! I never have and never will. I love my nitro The only reason I ask is because I wan't to see if this guy is blowing smoke up peoples butts or if anybody has actually ever tried it and gotten some sort of results. Edited October 6, 2005 by AlGeeEater Quote
lovekraft Posted October 5, 2005 Report Posted October 5, 2005 AlGee, where did you read this, and what exactly did the guy recommend? My Dad (and quite a few of the other model airplane builders of his generation) had more than a few fancy homebrewed finishes based on various oils and solvents and other arcane ingredients that predate aerosol lacquers and Testors enamels (yes, I know it's hard to believe, but there was paint even back in those ancient times - some of 'em even made their own lacquer from stuff like colloidion, camphor and white solvents - yech!! ). Transmission oil sounds vaguely familiar - might be a similar concoction. So I'm curious, if you don't mind checking ti out again. Anyway, like ryanb says, it's probably not a good idea, especially since we can buy Formby's and TruOil at the hardware store these days - it doesn't really make sense to mix your own unless the quailty is much superior. Quote
AlGeeEater Posted October 5, 2005 Author Report Posted October 5, 2005 I heard this on another guitar forum I am at. I am a regular in their guitar and gear building section, and that's where he posted it. He said exactly "NATURAL OIL based MANUAL transmission oil". Sound familiar? He's actually using Castrol, SAE 80W90. I still don't buy it from what i've read here and my research. Thanks for the info and any more help Quote
lovekraft Posted October 5, 2005 Report Posted October 5, 2005 OK, thanks! So he's rubbing 90 weight gear oil into the raw wood? That's kinda different... Not at all what I was thinkin', but thanks for clarifying it. One thing for sure - the guitar should be waterproof! Quote
AlGeeEater Posted October 5, 2005 Author Report Posted October 5, 2005 OK, thanks! So he's rubbing 90 weight gear oil into the raw wood? That's kinda different... Not at all what I was thinkin', but thanks for clarifying it. One thing for sure - the guitar should be waterproof! ← Waterproof at most. I assume this guy has NO idea what he's talking about then? I asked for pics too. Quote
lovekraft Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 I assume this guy has NO idea what he's talking about then? Either that, or he's knows something none of us know about yet! But somehow, I doubt it. Quote
AlGeeEater Posted October 6, 2005 Author Report Posted October 6, 2005 I assume this guy has NO idea what he's talking about then? Either that, or he's knows something none of us know about yet! But somehow, I doubt it. ← Well, if he doesnt magically disappear from the board without posting pics then we'll know! Quote
Daniel Sorbera Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 I think tomorrow I will have to take a scrap peice of wood and try this. It doesn't sound like anything I'd want to do on a guitar but it would be fun just to see what happens Quote
Jivin Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 It's generally a pretty good rule that if Google doesn't know about it, then it doesn't exist - Dan Quote
GuitarGuy Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 I think tomorrow I will have to take a scrap peice of wood and try this. It doesn't sound like anything I'd want to do on a guitar but it would be fun just to see what happens ← My old man used vegatable oil on an oak spatula he made, letting it soak in betweek coats. Still got the spatula.....not much oil left on it though. IT looked pretty when it was first done. Edit: I would NOT use this oil idea on a guitar. Tru-oil is not that expensive. Quote
AlGeeEater Posted October 6, 2005 Author Report Posted October 6, 2005 (edited) And the results are in... http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/2513/dsc000618ln.jpg (sorry had to make it a link) It doesnt really look THAT great, and I would rather use tru-oil than transmission oil. Seriously, what's tranny oil got over tru oil, nothing? Edited October 6, 2005 by AlGeeEater Quote
marksound Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 Maybe automatic transmission fluid next time? To give it a nice hint of cherry? Quote
AlGeeEater Posted October 6, 2005 Author Report Posted October 6, 2005 (edited) LOL. I wonder what that tag says behind the guitar. Sounds like he may have borrowed a guitar from a music store and took pics of it next to the can of oil Here's some more: http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/3296/dsc000647is.jpg http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/6841/dsc000652go.jpg http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1097/dsc000633pe.jpg Look's kinda cheap and probaly offers 0 protection to the wood. See that light spot in the second spot? That's the wood soaking up the oil. Who the hell want's to recoat there guitar with freakin tranny oil every weekend? Not me! Edited October 6, 2005 by AlGeeEater Quote
Sethmetal Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 LOL. I wonder what that tag says behind the guitar. Sounds like he may have borrowed a guitar from a music store and took pics of it next to the can of oil Here's some more: http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/3296/dsc000647is.jpg http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/6841/dsc000652go.jpg http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1097/dsc000633pe.jpg Look's kinda cheap and probaly offers 0 protection to the wood. See that light spot in the second spot? That's the wood soaking up the oil. Who the hell want's to recoat there guitar with freakin tranny oil every weekend? Not me! ← That dude is totally yanking you. If you look in your 3rd pic. You can read the tag. It says BB whatever....that is a yamaha model and then it says yellow natural, which is oretty much the color that we see. I don't think he did anything at all. He is just trying to mess with you guys. I guess it worked. hahahaha Quote
unclej Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 well, this is geared toward any of you that might be thinking of using it...i did once and while my guitar displayed great overdrive characteristics, when i grabbed the whammy bar i shot myself off of the stage at 30 miles per hour. the lady in the first row clutched my throw out bearing as i sailed by and broke my u-joint. DON'T DO IT!!! Quote
lovekraft Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 the lady in the first row clutched my throw out bearing as i sailed by and broke my u-joint. You'd get arrested for doing that in public down here - they dont tolerate no public collubrication 'round these parts! Quote
unclej Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 the lady in the first row clutched my throw out bearing as i sailed by and broke my u-joint. You'd get arrested for doing that in public down here - they dont tolerate no public collubrication 'round these parts! ← we tollerate it..we just don't encourage it. Quote
ibanez_crazy Posted October 6, 2005 Report Posted October 6, 2005 80w90 Smells way worse than even burned ATF. I have to work in that muck every day, would NOT want to be reminded of that while playing guitar. Quote
tirapop Posted October 7, 2005 Report Posted October 7, 2005 Sure it isn't supposed to be something like castor oil? Quote
AlGeeEater Posted October 7, 2005 Author Report Posted October 7, 2005 Sure it isn't supposed to be something like castor oil? ← Uhh, I posted the link to the pics WITH the oil he used, the specific brand he used and what he said.. Quote
javacody Posted October 8, 2005 Report Posted October 8, 2005 I wish I could find anything positive to say about this. I would choose even olive oil over that, any day of the week. Heck, I'd choose rancid lard over that. Quote
M_A_T_T Posted October 8, 2005 Report Posted October 8, 2005 (edited) LOL. I wonder what that tag says behind the guitar. Sounds like he may have borrowed a guitar from a music store and took pics of it next to the can of oil Here's some more: http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/3296/dsc000647is.jpg http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/6841/dsc000652go.jpg http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1097/dsc000633pe.jpg Look's kinda cheap and probaly offers 0 protection to the wood. See that light spot in the second spot? That's the wood soaking up the oil. Who the hell want's to recoat there guitar with freakin tranny oil every weekend? Not me! ← That dude is totally yanking you. If you look in your 3rd pic. You can read the tag. It says BB whatever....that is a yamaha model and then it says yellow natural, which is oretty much the color that we see. I don't think he did anything at all. He is just trying to mess with you guys. I guess it worked. hahahaha ← I noticed the writing on the tag, too. That's complete BS. I wouldn't think it would properly dry as motor oil is designed to stay liquid to lubricate the engine. Try putting cooking oil on your guitars..... Tru-oil and the like are designed to dry out, and tru-oil will actually dry thick and somewhat hard with enough coats. He's just trying to make people do it on their guitars to f'em up. Algee you should let him no we're on to him and not to post BS like that anymore. This reminds me of Jeff's food dye thing.... Also, I believe most oil finishes are designed to be 'food safe', makng them great for guitars. I have little reason to believe motor oil is 'food safe', therefore not that great to be handling. EDIT: I found the thread: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266282 Good job telling him Algee and glad it got closed. That guy is just plain dumb. If he wants a matte oil finish just use pure tung oil. Edited October 8, 2005 by M_A_T_T Quote
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