Max_Powers Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) Alright! So I am new here, have been reading for awhile though, great info on the site! So my problem is this. I just recently bought two seymour duncan pickups, JB for the bridge and a Jazz for the neck. My guitar is a Gibson Hawk which has one tone, one volume, one three way switch and obviously two humbuckers. While messing around last night I broke something on the original pot, so I went out and got an All Parts 500k pot. I also picked up a .047 cap while I was at the music store. I decided to re-configure the wiring after seeing the schematic on the Seymour Duncan site. Located here: http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/schem...1tone_3way.html I believe I have followed this properly but alast I get no sound just loud buzzing. I know it would be hard to see from pictures but any of you more experienced guys see anything? Thanks a bunch in advance! http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/Max_.../Picture015.jpg PIC SIZE TOO BIG!!! RESIZE AND POST AGAIN. Edited March 2, 2006 by Maiden69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Powers Posted February 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 after seeing another diagram, why would the seymour duncan diagram be the way it is in their schematic? Is there any benefit to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclej Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 the first thing i noticed is that you have the ground wire from your pot going to the hot lug of your output jack..the long red wire coming from the tone pot..i'm sorry, i can't make out enough detail to tell if anything else is wrong. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Powers Posted February 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 that first pot is a volume pot. In the seymour duncan diagram it says to run a wire from the output jack to the ground. Am I that stupid? hahaha No one answer that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclej Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 nah..that's an easy mistake to make. just swap (reverse) the two wires on the jack and see if that fixes it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Powers Posted March 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Hey! I actually got a bit of sound out of it by switching the wires but still not full sound. And still lots of buzzing! There must be something else..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Hey! I actually got a bit of sound out of it by switching the wires but still not full sound. And still lots of buzzing! There must be something else..... Unsolder all of the wires from the new volume pot. Follow these steps: 1. Use a white eraser to clean the solder lugs and back of the pot. 2. Wipe down the lugs and the back with rubbing alcohol. 3. Tin the tip of your soldering iron with solder. 4. Tin the back and lugs of the pot with solder. 5. Tin the leads you are going to solder to the pot. 6. Solder the leads to the pot. Also, I would remove that big piece of black shielded wire and just use regular straded wire for your hot wire. I'm thinking it probably has a short somewhere in it and it's not giving you a good signal path. Unless you can clean up that soldering a little better I'd take it to a tech... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psw Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Hmmm...more soldering practice....hmmm On something like that pot ground, what you could do is use a bit of string bare solid wire from the pot and solder the individual wires to that, bit easier to do than wire all of them too the pot. Or, bend some wire like this around a smal screw into the side of the cavity as a centeral ground and connect everything to that wire then screw it in to stop it flopping about...still a "star" ground, just not connected to the pot, much easier and neater too... Oh...pist...too many pics, to big BTW... pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Powers Posted March 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) Thanks for the info, I'll give that a shot when I get home. As for taking it to a tech, that won't happen. Pots cost 5$, I'll ruin as many as I have to before I bring it into a tech. I'd rather practice and get better at it. It's not like I've been doing this for a while. Sorry about the pics, didn't fully read the rules I guess. Edited March 1, 2006 by Max_Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Powers Posted March 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) I am sure none of you actually give a ****, but I re-soldered everything and it's working perfectly now. You obviously haven't read the rules - may I suggest you do so now, before you get into trouble. Edited March 1, 2006 by lovekraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Great! Bad solder joints will ruin a guitar's sound more than just about anything else, besides faulty circuits to begin with. Oh yeah, watch the cursing. They're trying to have this forum be about as family-friendly as possible, and it's not worth getting banned over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Powers Posted March 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Sorry, I normally don't step outside the rules of message boards, hence why I didn't read the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 No biggie, Max - just your hardworking mods keeping the forum safe for democracy! Glad you got your wiring sorted out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Powers Posted March 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 It's sorted out but it still gives me quite a bit of feedback. When i mute the strings it doesnt feedback though. I'm getting fed up haha. Stupid grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 It's sorted out but it still gives me quite a bit of feedback. When i mute the strings it doesnt feedback though. I'm getting fed up haha. Stupid grounds. Lower the pickups a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Powers Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 It's sorted out but it still gives me quite a bit of feedback. When i mute the strings it doesnt feedback though. I'm getting fed up haha. Stupid grounds. Lower the pickups a little. Thanks! I'll give that a shot when I get home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Powers Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 (edited) It's sorted out but it still gives me quite a bit of feedback. When i mute the strings it doesnt feedback though. I'm getting fed up haha. Stupid grounds. Lower the pickups a little. Thanks! I'll give that a shot when I get home. Ok I tried that, didn't work. So to be more detailed, the sound the pickups put out is nothing short of amazing. I absolutely love it. Problem is with the gain up, as soon as I take my hand off the strings, it starts to squeel and hum. Put my hand back on and it's quiet. On my clean channel there doesn't seem to be any problem at all..... Also noticed that when playing with my strap locks, I can hear every movement they make through my amp. Any other suggestions? Edited March 4, 2006 by Max_Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Well, everything you're describing is pretty normal, but there are steps you can take to cut down on feedback. The one that usually works for me the most is lowering the pickups a tad because it gets them a little further away from the strings. I also use surgical tubing instead of springs on the pickup mounts. It doesn't sound like your pickups are microphonic because you're getting string feedback, but you can also tighten the little brass bobbin screws on the bottom of the pickups and see if that helps. Is you Hawk a semi-hollow or a solid body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevan Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Also, make sure the volume and gain on the amp are at low levels to begin with, and that you're far enough away from the amp/speakers. From what you've posted, I'm guessing that you have a full stack dimed and your nose is very close to touching the BASS knob. Turn the volume down and take a couple of steps back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Powers Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 to answer the questions, my hawk is a solid body. I tried it with the pickups all the way down and it still feedsback. It comes in slowly then wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaahhhhhh haha. As for my amp haha, it's a Mesa studio .22+. I didn't make any of these sounds before i put the pickups in so I just assumed it was my crappy wiring hehe. I may try the surgical tubing. So it is normal that I can hear every movement with my strap locks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Yeah, I could hear my old Schaller straplocks pretty well through my amp. Gave up on 'em until I bought a set of Dunlops--don't hear much through them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 If you can hear your straplocks through your amp, something is extremely microphonic! No wonder you're having feedback problems! It's probably loose pickups - try the surgical tubing mentioned above, or stiffer springs, or stuff some foam behind 'em (or any combination of these), but get those pickups damped enough to stop playing on their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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