Pask8 Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 I recently aquired a cyclone body that im going to total redo. But the problem is I want the scale to be 24" and the cyclone is 24.75. could I just move the bridge forward that .75 or will the pickgaurd alinment and stuff be messed up. Thnaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwhiteandthemaple Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 No it won't work.. the intonations will be out of place.. it just won't work. Link Here's a topic that someone asked the same thing you're asking, but with different numbers. Knowing that you really don't know how scales/frets/intonation work, I wouldn't suggest doing anything to the neck or the guitar for that matter. There are conversion necks available from Warmoth. -IR P.S. Use the search forum, there's a great depth of information and knowledge in here. It won't bite. I promise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pask8 Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Oh ok. I thought you could just move the bridge up but no harm. I just wanted to use an old mustang neck I had laying around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Hold on a sec... Moving the bridge is exactly what you'd need to do in order to make this work. Although it might be easier to route the neck pocket deeper into the body, if the guitar has a trem. You can also move both. Or depending on how much travel you have in the saddles, you might be able to get away with moving the neck or bridge just part of the way, and use the saddles to make up the difference. Kind of a cool-looking guitar, actually. You can easily figure out how much you'd need to move things using Stew Mac's Fret Scale calculator A strat-style bridge should be set at 23.765" (±0.030") from the nut for a 24" scale neck. That compares to 24.507" (±0.030") for a 24.75" scale neck. We're talking a move of about 0.7 an inch --that's not a whole lot. From my own build, I found that StewMac's calculator is so accurate that the guitar was already pretty intonated before I even started adjusting the bridge. Pretty cool really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pask8 Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Hold on a sec... Moving the bridge is exactly what you'd need to do in order to make this work. Although it might be easier to route the neck pocket deeper into the body, if the guitar has a trem. You can also move both. Or depending on how much travel you have in the saddles, you might be able to get away with moving the neck or bridge just part of the way, and use the saddles to make up the difference. Kind of a cool-looking guitar, actually. You can easily figure out how much you'd need to move things using Stew Mac's Fret Scale calculator A strat-style bridge should be set at 23.765" (±0.030") from the nut for a 24" scale neck. That compares to 24.507" (±0.030") for a 24.75" scale neck. We're talking a move of about 0.7 an inch --that's not a whole lot. From my own build, I found that StewMac's calculator is so accurate that the guitar was already pretty intonated before I even started adjusting the bridge. Pretty cool really. Thanks a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickmangumby Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 (edited) If you change the scale of the neck AND shift the bridge, it will work. Edited March 24, 2006 by Stickmangumby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammoth guitars Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Moving the bridge around or changing the neck pocket does not change the scale. The fret positions determine the scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova9 Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Hold on a sec... Moving the bridge is exactly what you'd need to do in order to make this work. Although it might be easier to route the neck pocket deeper into the body, if the guitar has a trem. You can also move both. Or depending on how much travel you have in the saddles, you might be able to get away with moving the neck or bridge just part of the way, and use the saddles to make up the difference. Kind of a cool-looking guitar, actually. You can easily figure out how much you'd need to move things using Stew Mac's Fret Scale calculator A strat-style bridge should be set at 23.765" (±0.030") from the nut for a 24" scale neck. That compares to 24.507" (±0.030") for a 24.75" scale neck. We're talking a move of about 0.7 an inch --that's not a whole lot. From my own build, I found that StewMac's calculator is so accurate that the guitar was already pretty intonated before I even started adjusting the bridge. Pretty cool really. Mickguard, You ignore the fret positioning, and the effects that would have on the guitar. You'd hit open notes fine, but other notes would be a bit of a challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 You ignore the fret positioning, and the effects that would have on the guitar. You'd hit open notes fine, but other notes would be a bit of a challenge No, think about it. He's using a neck from a Mustang --the neck is 24" scale, presumably the frets are properly spaced for that scale. He's NOT trying to convert the neck from 24.75, he's trying to convert the body (i.e., either the placement of the bridge or the depth of the neck pocket) to match the neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova9 Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 You ignore the fret positioning, and the effects that would have on the guitar. You'd hit open notes fine, but other notes would be a bit of a challenge No, think about it. He's using a neck from a Mustang --the neck is 24" scale, presumably the frets are properly spaced for that scale. He's NOT trying to convert the neck from 24.75, he's trying to convert the body (i.e., either the placement of the bridge or the depth of the neck pocket) to match the neck. And the award for most gormless looking forum user goes to........... yours truly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 And the award for most gormless looking forum user goes to........... yours truly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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