Saber Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 then what node or harmonic is the brigde pick up on then? It's the 87th fret node. But seriously, if the "dead node" is not a factor with the neck pickup, it should be even less of a factor with the bridge pickup since, at the string's end, there is such a high concentration of high-order harmonics and they are so closely spaced that the pickup poles will always have enough close-by to pick up. (Just my 2 cents worth.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted October 9, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 then what node or harmonic is the brigde pick up on then? It's the 87th fret node. But seriously, if the "dead node" is not a factor with the neck pickup, it should be even less of a factor with the bridge pickup since, at the string's end, there is such a high concentration of high-order harmonics and they are so closely spaced that the pickup poles will always have enough close-by to pick up. (Just my 2 cents worth.) I hardly ever use the neck pickup anyway, so that's not much of a concern to me. But theoretically, if you could build a guitar with a movabable pickup that would be awesome... lol... So let's just think about this in a crazy scientific audio manner.. lol.. since you went there.. Just to make you think... If you could place the pickup all the way up to the 2nd fret then it would be more treble right? I guess if you place the pickup starting at the bridge and could slowly move it up .. it would get more bass response.. but going past the 12th fret you'd start getting treble the move you went toward the nut? Anyone want to try that and report back.. ? haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEdwardJones Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 This webpage is what got me thinking about which I should build. http://www.edromanguitars.com/tech/22vs24.htm I don't always agree with Ed.. but it is interesting.. I read this and, well, Ed Roman is a moron. Even when he has a valid point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gw_guitars Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 I have read this topic and didn't realize that the placing of the neck pickup was so important. Maybe an idea: make the fretboard so that after the 24th fret the neck pickup is placed, but the fretboard has only a 24th fret on the high E and B string. The fretboard stops on the low E on the 20th fret or so. Then place the neck pickup straight against the fretboard. The neck pickup will be tilted but with the right pickup it wouldn't be a problem. Maybe this is a useless reply but hey, I'm trying to think along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchool Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 I voted 24 frets because since I'm playing my homemade guitar (that has 24 frets) I find a lot easier to reach the 22nd. (well, I didn't take in account that it's a neck-through, but I tried a friend of mine's JEM (the BFP ) and it was easy too). Even if when I'm doing my solos I rarely use the 23rd-24th frets, but when I'm making noises they're very useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezerboy Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 i'd have to say 24 just for the extra amount of freedom it gives you and the fact that you can play the same note three times each in a different octave on the same string. although wouldn't you like a thirty fret guitar??? that right thirty, just count 'em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonray305 Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 I guess there is always a counter point. I like the 24 fret deal but my next project is going to be a 22 fret. I have already Set up my neck for 22 frets. When it is finished I will let you know. I think I will use a vintage bass instead of a dragon and see if it is even sweeter on a 22 fret guitar. Jon Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StratDudeDan Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 got my 22 fret strat and a 20 fret acoustic, and i have never needed to go over them. first of all, my strat just plays most lovely (pics soon for guitar of the month, i just had some fun with it) and i never need to go about 12 or 13 on my acoustic, so throwing more wood on there wouldn't do anything for me playing wise or tonally, so i don't really care. besides, i love my acoustic. that's my story and i'm sticking to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 theres neigh muckin with 24 fret necks! the 2 octave span on any sting is cool, and as previously mentioned its easier playin the higher frets. id however like to try a 27 or 29 fret guitar just for the hell of it mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultraman Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 Id have a 38 fret neck with a pickup on the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Litchfield Custom Gutars Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 24. I agree with ed here. The neck PU is most commonly used for clean open hords for a psuedo acoustic sound. The node is not interfered with on a real acoustic or a 24 fret guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Librero Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 For the most part, I only use the 23rd and 24th frets when I get too lazy to bend the string from the 22nd fret. those extra frets never suited my own playing, i guess. and i do love using the neck pickup on 22-fret guitars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 The neck PU is most commonly used for clean open hords for a psuedo acoustic sound. Hmm... I use the neck pickup a LOT for leads. One of my guitars even has an old Dimarzio X2N in the neck position for this purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DividedByJames Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 I play guitars with 24, 22, and 21 fret necks. I like each individually for what the guitar is and while I can see what Ed Roman is talking about, there are just certain things that won't disappear. Vintage style is one of them, so that's why companies keep returning to building a Les Paul or Strat clone. If that wasn't the case we'd all be playing Dean ML's, or Jackson Warriors. I personally like my 25.5" scale 24 fret necks. Didn't Hamer have a slanted 27 fret fingerboard? I thought I remember Vernon Reid from Living Colour having one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryeisnotcool2 Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 22 for now, on my guitars i designed the neck so that all the frets could be accessed with out the body getting in the way, like my 61 SG . im thinkin of doing a 24 fret and i wont have to change anything cause i also mount my pickups back off the neck about 5/8" cause i hate that" woofy neck sound" when its to bassy! mine is perfectly warm sounding and i like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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