stenns Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Just wondering what the concequences would be for using yellow glue to fasten my body blank together. Where can i get hide glue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orgmorg Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Do you mean like Titebond, Elmer's woodworking glue, or similar, aliphatic resin glues? If so, that is what folks mostly use for almost all wood to wood joints. the Titebond original formula ( not II or III ) comes especially recomended. I use the Elmer's, just cause I always have. It works very well, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 (edited) +1 Titebond Original (NOT II or III) is my bog-standard glue for 99% of all my wood-to-wood joinery. I'll be trying hide glue on my next few acoustic builds; can be had from StewMac, LMI, possibly your local fine arts/paints store (mine has it), ebay...any number of sources. You want to use the stuff made afresh, used hot, all that stuff, not the bottled one. Frank Ford's website (FRETS.com) has some great info on glues and their uses, albeit more geared towards repair than building, it's still highly relevant. Edited May 26, 2006 by Mattia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sorbera Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Personally I would recomend not using hide glue on a solid body guitar. It's sticky, it's hot, it's hard to get the peices clamped before the stuff gells up, and it basicly falls apart with too much heat. It's great for violins, deffinitly not so great for solidbody guitars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 I only just learned that hide glue doesn't mean the glue gets hidden, just that it's made from animal hides. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Personally I would recomend not using hide glue on a solid body guitar. It's sticky, it's hot, it's hard to get the peices clamped before the stuff gells up, and it basicly falls apart with too much heat. It's great for violins, deffinitly not so great for solidbody guitars. Hide glue is *the* best heat resistant wood glue there is. It's because of this that people use it inspite of it's somewhat fiddly aspects. There is a ton of info on the MIMF about working with hide glue, such as warming the pieces to be jointed, and applying from a squeeze bottle with large bolts in it to retain heat. There's no real need to use it on electrics, but certainly no reason not to if you know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sorbera Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Personally I would recomend not using hide glue on a solid body guitar. It's sticky, it's hot, it's hard to get the peices clamped before the stuff gells up, and it basicly falls apart with too much heat. It's great for violins, deffinitly not so great for solidbody guitars. Hide glue is *the* best heat resistant wood glue there is. It's because of this that people use it inspite of it's somewhat fiddly aspects. There is a ton of info on the MIMF about working with hide glue, such as warming the pieces to be jointed, and applying from a squeeze bottle with large bolts in it to retain heat. There's no real need to use it on electrics, but certainly no reason not to if you know how. Really? Weird, I thought it gave up at about 115 degrees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Really? Weird, I thought it gave up at about 115 degrees Only if wet. Titebond and epoxy will release with just heat, quite easily, hide glue needs moisture. Hide glue needs a lot more than 115 degrees if we're talking farenheit. It sets at about 95 degrees, should be kept at 145 for working, but once it's cured and set HARD, without moisture left, it won't let go (without humidity) until temps hit the 400 mark or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Luthier/Da...t/gluetest.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sorbera Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Good link setch. guess I was wrong about hide glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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