jammy Posted November 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 So you all have more money now than you think you will have after college? Definatly. At the moment living at home makes for a super cheap lifestyle! When I start making some money and actually come to move out I fear I'll be far more skint. As for the workshop - Expect some updates tonight guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 they must live with their parents or off student loans.. ..or off parental cash, student loans, and in (cheap) student housing. No mortgage, few fixed costs, little to no income taxes to pay, etc. etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted November 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Last 2 power tools arrived! That's the edge sander/linisher. Allready had a piece of wood firing across the workshop during testing http://www.solar.myby.co.uk/misc/andy/dustextractor.jpg And this is the 2000watt, 2 motor dust extractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sorbera Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Looking good. All thats missing are those nice none slip matts to stand on and a butt load of clamps and your set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I had the matts, but I got rid of them because they make sweeping a pain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sorbera Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I had the matts, but I got rid of them because they make sweeping a pain... Yeah but sawdust gets very slippery and I've fallen plenty of times in my shop. Luckally never when using a tool or carrying a guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbojerik Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I'm not sure what's going on with that dust collector, but.....if you can find a way to direct the outflow from the filter bag outdoors (so that the air is not blowing into your shop) you'll save yourself some potential long-term damage to your lungs. These portable dust collectors do a pretty good job of filtering, but their efficiency at trapping stuff thats smaller than a few microns is not good at all. Just get one going on a sunny day and watch what floats out into the air through the filter. That's the stuff that will get stuck in your lungs and turn into pneumonia, emphysema or cancer down the road. You either need some ventilation to get that stuff out of the shop, or a good air handling system inside the shop to cycle the air and filter that stuff out with HEPA filters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I'm not sure what's going on with that dust collector, but.....if you can find a way to direct the outflow from the filter bag outdoors (so that the air is not blowing into your shop) you'll save yourself some potential long-term damage to your lungs. These portable dust collectors do a pretty good job of filtering, but their efficiency at trapping stuff thats smaller than a few microns is not good at all. Just get one going on a sunny day and watch what floats out into the air through the filter. That's the stuff that will get stuck in your lungs and turn into pneumonia, emphysema or cancer down the road. You either need some ventilation to get that stuff out of the shop, or a good air handling system inside the shop to cycle the air and filter that stuff out with HEPA filters. It's a fine filter extractor, so I shouldn't have a problem. I'll post more pictures when I've got it mounted up on the wall (hopefully this evening) Another little bit of progress - just ordered £130's worth of cutters for the pin router. Solid Carbide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbojerik Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 It's a fine filter extractor, so I shouldn't have a problem. OK, but does the manual actually say what that means in terms of particle filtration efficiency at 1 micron? My Delta doesn't....it has a "1 micron filter bag" and damn, 1 micron sounds pretty small, cool....especially since they used to come with 30 micron bags. Then I see what passes through the filter on a sunny day, and I KNOW I don't want to be breathing that. So I park the dust collector out in the driveway. http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/Index.cfm This should be required reading when it comes to dust collection in a pro workshop...provided you want to be building into your old age, I mean. Read every link; a lot of information yeah, but then you can at least make an informed choice (rather than a guess) about how many years you want to cut off the end of your earthly existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I've read that cover to cover, and bought the dust extractor specifically due to it's filtration capacity (0.5 micron) I was considering an air cleaner too, but from what I've read in that book they're near pointless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I'm intersted, why does he say that air cleaners are near pointless? I've been considering getting one after I upgrade the filter on my dust collecter from bags to a finer particulate trapping cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 As they suffer from the same problem as these fine filter extractors - some very fine dust is blown back out into the atmosphere. He reccomends that you should spend time/money on getting your extraction system right, saying if there's enough dust in the workshop's air to warrent a cleaner, something's wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 I certainly can't attach a dust collector to my dremel...could get a sanding table though. I'll have to buy this book so I can meticulously tear it appart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbojerik Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Right on Jammy, that is a very good book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted November 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 I certainly can't attach a dust collector to my dremel...could get a sanding table though. I'll have to buy this book so I can meticulously tear it appart. Bingo! He reccomends sanding tables alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted November 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Progress! I've decided on a layout, and the dust extractor's on the wall. http://www.solar.myby.co.uk/misc/andy/workshop1.jpg Thats looking from the back end of the shop down the left wall, the tool placments are finalised. Where the tools are stacked on the right by the front door will be my main bench area. http://www.solar.myby.co.uk/misc/andy/workshop2.jpg That's from t'other end, up the same wall. http://www.solar.myby.co.uk/misc/andy/workshop3.jpg That's the left wall if you're standing at the front door. Complete with dust extractor, gotta start "plumbing" tomorrow! http://www.solar.myby.co.uk/misc/andy/workshop4.jpg And the most important bit - my new, free speakers, wallmouted around my floyd poster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Good on you, jammy. At least you know what's truly important in a shop...a nice, loud(read: loud enough so you can hear it over the table saw even while wearing ear muffs) sound system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Lookin' good I'd disagree that air cleaners are almost pointless, in my case at least... I brought a Perform one from Axminster and it's one of the best things I've brought for my workshop. It depends the individual of course, but I use my belt sander a lot and I also route a lot of mdf, even with my Record dust extractor attached you get a lot of fine dust that you don't always see until the sunlight hits it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 My mate's dad's a joiner and was refitting a kitchen this week. Bingo - 5 free kitchen wall units! Solid Oak doors and everything! I've also ordered all the ducting/joints/blast gates for the dust extraction today. I'll be starting on a bench Wendnesday. Nearly done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJD Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 I'm so jealous of your workshop!! mine is the size of a medium B & Q wooden shed only in breeze block... dark side of the moon ey? that has GOT to be done!! nice one mate, you're workshop is amazing!! hope it starts paying for it's self soon :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 I'm so jealous of your workshop!! mine is the size of a medium B & Q wooden shed only in breeze block... dark side of the moon ey? that has GOT to be done!! nice one mate, you're workshop is amazing!! hope it starts paying for it's self soon :D +1! I'm already dead happy I've got most of a 3m x 2x shop (that's 10ft by 10ft for non-metric folk. Ish) to myself. Still waiting on the fluorescent lights, the VSD/phase converter for the big bad bandsaw, and a couple of bits of pine so I can assemble and bolt the main bench into place. Buying the dust collector, a press (for fretting), maybe a combo disk/belt sander on Saturday, if all goes to plan, and from December I've got about a month off, so I hope I can get a few instruments done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted November 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Made me a bench tonight with the help of my mate Scott Scored a nice record quick release vice for £30, and all the wood's from the old bench that was in the garage that was demolished to make place for the extension (the downstairs of which is my workshop). I need to add an end vice for use with bench dogs, but other that that I'm chuffed! I quite enjoy 2x4 and screws joinery, a welcome change! It's 2.11m long, and 80cm deep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe-Of-Fortyseconds Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Awesome andy. Tha looks class. I will have to come and make a guitar there soon. I will post my rossette pics soon Nice Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 (edited) Sweet Jammy! . The shop looks like a dream. I bet you are going to have a lot of fun working in that great shop. Peace,Rich HEY! wait a second.... Were does your stock of wood go? Edited November 23, 2006 by fryovanni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Nice bench...but isn't it a bit, like, low? I'm making mine 42" tall (105cm) to the worksurface, a little below my belly button, which makes most relatively fine work more comfortable, sitting at it with a tall stool perfect for detail work, and adding a 2-4" bench/shelf to stand on leaves it at the right height for stuff that requires putting my back into it (say, planing or similar). I've got the workmate for lower altitude stuff. Other than that, lookin' great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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