low end fuzz Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 ok; someone already touched on this, and now i cant find his thread anywhere; is this rustins plastic available ;for purchase or shipping; in N America? i remember the thread was responded with- ''why would you want it; isnt there alot more available in the states?'' the more i read about it, with examples; lookin at you wezv; the more it looks like a perfect solution for me; ive written some emails to the company and what not, but nothin yet; has anyone on this side of the pond gotten any? is that ktm-9 basically the same stuff? it dosent sound like exactly, but preach the same benifets; ie brushing on and what not; thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al heeley Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Rustins plastic coating is a 2 part acid-cat UF-resin based finish if that helps. I dunnno what ktm-9 is ; not seen it over here in the uk. Have you tried ebay? I got a few leads here from ebay shops, Rustins don't sell direct, you have to find a specialist decorater shop, and there's not many stocking it retail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A different Brian. Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 I'm curious about this stuff, too. I bookmarked this source in Virginia. It's worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verhoevenc Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Sweet link. I may have to give this stuff a try one day cause the things I've seen done with it look GREAT. Maybe those who use it could give us a rundown on how they use it, and their process? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al heeley Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Mix up base and hardener as per their recommendations. Brush on smoothly and allow 30 mins for each coat to cure before overcoating. After 3 coats allow to dry 24 hrs then wet sand level with 600 grit. Apply final 4th coat, thinned down. Allow 1-2 days to dry. wet sand with 600 grit. Buff and polish with fine compound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A different Brian. Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Well, you guys that use this stuff definately have my attention with the Rustins. I have a spraybooth in my studio, but it is only set up to spray non-toxic, water-based poly. The water-based poly isn't hard enough to be a good guitar finish, IMO. If I wanted to try spraying regular poly, I do have a 10'x10' drying room that has explosion proof lighting and exhaust fan. This could be home to a small, improvised, limited-use spray booth for spraying guitar bodies and necks. I still would have the issue of hazardous waste after equipment clean-up. I'm not sure what to do about that. I'm really hoping the Rustins works out. It'll be a while before I'm ready to try it, probably months away. Until then, I'm just watching the board for feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Rustins plastic coating is a 2 part acid-cat UF-resin based finish if that helps. I dunnno what ktm-9 is ; not seen it over here in the uk. Have you tried ebay? I got a few leads here from ebay shops, Rustins don't sell direct, you have to find a specialist decorater shop, and there's not many stocking it retail. Hey Al, this is KTM. http://www.lmii.com/CartTwo/thirdproducts....er+based+Finish I ordered the stuff nearly a year ago and have yet to use it. I guess I'll start testing it on some wood soon. It just seems like it would require a good amount of finishing skill to spray it right, because I have heard far too many horror stories using this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 I got pretty good results with the stuff when i used to brush it, infact i got it as good as the spray jobs we are doing now a couple of times. I found when brushing it that it would take a lot more than four coats, but you could do a light coat every 15-20 minutes. I would do about four coats( 1 every 15 mins), leave it an hour, sand out the remaining brush marks, rinse and repeat as neccisary. Now i have my cousin Nath spraying for me and he loves the stuff for its quick dry time and hardness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A different Brian. Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 There's gotta be a down side. Can you tell this is a home-made guitar by the finish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 I don't know, can you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al heeley Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 *.¬~drool......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A different Brian. Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Setch: I figured you'd bring that up. Don't worry, you've got my attention with your other posts. That really is sweet-looking. Did you brush that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al heeley Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 That was applied using one of his old socks. You should see when he does a really good finish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A different Brian. Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Ya, that's not all! I hear that since he's in the UK, he buys his wood from the same supplier that the guy who made Harry Potter's magic wond buys from. I guess this guitar can almost play itself!!! If that's an old sock, someone get this guy a new sock and let's see what he can do. (Light-hearted humor, I'm smiling while writing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Not an old sock, but a very inexpensive spray rig. WezV has applied it with brush, and with equally impressive results - Wez.... can we get a pic of that blue one you did with brushed PC? p.s: Anyone who wants to buy me new socks, send me a PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A different Brian. Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Ok, spraying's good. What kind of spray setup works for spraying this stuff??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 a £15 touch up gun from axminster (practically identical units are available at almost all large powertool centres), and a mid priced compressor. Nothing special at all. I am considering a HVLP setup, since I suspect I am wasting a lot of material as overspray, and I'd prefer not to dust everything in my workshop with lacquer whenever I spray... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al heeley Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 [unashamedly bumping this old thread] Setch - your Rustins PC finishes are so excellent, can you talk me through the finishing steps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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