danny_v_l Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 OK from what i under stand its - striping the body - sanding the body - remove all dust - grain filler - sand down some - more grain filler - sand down some - 1 to 2 coats of laquer - wet sand - Aply ur colors - 3 to 4 coats of laquer - buffing/polishing Am i right i looked at the painting tutoral but it wasn't on a guitar so.. i wanted to make sure i was right please make any corredtions if needed, Please Help Me Quote
Brian Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 That'll work, just remember there are a gazzillion ways to paint and take your time, being in a rush is what kills most first timers and their idea of how it should turn out. Especially when it comes to allowing the paint to cure inbetween coats or buffing. Quote
LGM Guitars Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 it's close, but if you are using laquer, use 20 to 25 coats, I was using polyurethane in that tutorial, and one coat of poly urethane is equal to 2 and a half or 3 coats of laquer due to shrinking. You can do it with less, but your finish won't look that deep and chances of sanding through are way higher. Quote
Jehle Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 That'll work, just remember there are a gazzillion ways to paint and take your time, being in a rush is what kills most first timers and their idea of how it should turn out. Especially when it comes to allowing the paint to cure inbetween coats or buffing. Ditto that. Don't be in a hurry to finish the paint job. If you hurry, it'll mess up, look like crap and you'll have to do it over again. And if you do make a mistake, stop. Let it dry overnight and then fix it the next day. Painting takes the most time out of all the projects I've done so far. It pays to go slow. Quote
danny_v_l Posted September 29, 2003 Author Report Posted September 29, 2003 ok i also would like to no were i can get laquer from i.e. websites i dicided i want a stain finish like this http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=03...base_id/103533/ can u help me out on this, and how much should i sand the grain filler nd other stuff.... this could really help me out alot i need all the help i can get Quote
Jehle Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 ok i also would like to no were i can get laquer from i.e. websites i dicided i want a stain finish like this http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=03...base_id/103533/ can u help me out on this, and how much should i sand the grain filler nd other stuff.... this could really help me out alot i need all the help i can get The easiest place to buy lacquer is Lowes, Home Depot, and Walmart. I'm sure you could get it from a website like www.stewmac.com, but since every place in the States is cursed with a WalMart you should have no problems. I would stay away from Rustoleum Lacquers. Trust me on that. Trust Brian on that too. I would guess that you could get a satin finish with lacquer with little effort. To get a mirror like glaze, polishing takes a lot of time. Satin should be a breeze. If I remember correctly, you still need to wet sand the lacquer smooth, but you finish it off with 0000 steel wool (or wire wool if you're in the UK ). Quote
Jehle Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 Sounds like you are going the rattle can method too. I wouldn't strip the body. I would just rough sand it with a 220 grit paper to give the next coats something to bite into. I would suggest using a primer (coat as needed, sand smooth), a color coat (coat as needed and wet sand smooth), followed by a clear lacquer, followed by more clear lacquer, and more and more clear lacquer. Then wait for a few weeks before touching it. For my work with spray cans, the working recipe was Krylon primer, Krylon color coat, and Deft clear lacquer. All are available from WalMart (read rant above). Quote
danny_v_l Posted September 29, 2003 Author Report Posted September 29, 2003 not making scence to me, ok theres this stuff, http://www.stewmac.com/cgi-bin/hazel.cgi?a...u.html&sku=3881 if i sand my guitar all the way down to the wood can i use the Sanding Sealer as Grain filler, and is that stain finish gonna be how i want it like, not shiny kindda flat, Tell me th proceses, like in a list prime the guitar (with what were can i get it) whats next (with what were can i get it) then what (with what were can i get it) ect....... i really needs this alot plaz help me plz don't direct me to a another forum/thread i'll be so confused u have already help me some i just need a good explaition, i've read everywere any still it dosn't make no scence to me (i no bad english who cares) Quote
Jehle Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 1) I wouldn't strip the body. I would just rough sand it with a 220 grit paper to give the next coats something to bite into. No grain fill needed in this case. 2) I would suggest using a primer (Krylon gray at walmart) (1 or 2 coats, lightly sand smooth with 220 grit), 3) spray a color coat (Krylon <pick your color> at walmart) 1 or 2 coats and wet sand smooth with 320 grit. If you sand through to the primer add another color coat, 4) Spray many layers of clear lacquer (Deft clear lacquer at walmart). Let it dry well between coats. Then wait for a few weeks before touching it. I would wait 2 months if did lacquer again. For my work with spray cans, the working recipe was Krylon primer, Krylon color coat, and Deft clear lacquer. All are available from WalMart. Danny ^ read that ^ Quote
danny_v_l Posted September 30, 2003 Author Report Posted September 30, 2003 hey guys, i want to use my air brush, so i can make a nice unique color, and i want a satin finish Quote
Jehle Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 hey guys, i want to use my air brush, so i can make a nice unique color, and i want a satin finish I'm no expert on using a gun, but that'll do for adding you color coats. You'll need to thin the paint with the appropriate thinner and get it to flow right (that much I know). Build up the color in several coats. An air brush, or air gun expert will have to tell you about what sort of paint to use and all. The sanding, lacquering step will be the same. Quote
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