~davie Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 i was reading the faux ebony trick article and i was wondering if the dye used would stain metal or plastic or not? the metal as in the frets and the plastic which is the nut and fret markers (i think its plastic? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~davie Posted December 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 and btw, does anyone know if the laquer or aniline dye is toxic or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 you stain it before you install fret markers or frets... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~davie Posted December 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 yeah i know, but i'm trying to mod an already built guitar what about that steel wool + vinegar trick? is that any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 i have never done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~davie Posted December 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 come to think of it, i'm not sure if the vinegar trick will work on my rosewood fretboard. that's why i rather use something like the "black fingerboard stain" from StewMac's, but unfortunately they're not allowed to ship it to Canada. the aniline dye could be an option too, but i don't know where to get some, or whether or not its safe to have on a fingerboard, like.. it is toxic, harmful or pathogenic in anyway? cus you know, you're gonna be in contact with it quite often (fingerboard + fingers) any suggestions, people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Just don't lick your fingerboard and you'll be just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdmonster Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 the black fingerboard dye from stew-mac is nothing but leather dye. You should be able to find that in canada. I have a ? if you stain it before you install inlays or such what do you do when you have to do the touched work from leveling and sanding the inlays and glue. I never understood this and never had any luck with it that way. I always do my staining last. Then clean up the inlays to remove the residue off them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 i thought the whole point of the vinegar soaking overnight was to impregnate the wood all the way through.it has been a while since i read the tut though. personally,if i want ebony,i just choose to buy ebony... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~davie Posted December 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 (edited) leather dye, huh? i could give it a try, but is it toxic (especially to the touch)? is it gonna make my guitar stinky? or wear off and leave my fingers with residue? and wes, i don't have the cash to blow, and also i'm just experimenting on my noob guitar and see what i can make of it Edited December 18, 2006 by ~davie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar2005 Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 the aniline dye could be an option too, but i don't know where to get some, or whether or not its safe to have on a fingerboard, like.. it is toxic, harmful or pathogenic in anyway? cus you know, you're gonna be in contact with it quite often (fingerboard + fingers) any suggestions, people? http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=...,42996&ap=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~davie Posted December 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 the aniline dye could be an option too, but i don't know where to get some, or whether or not its safe to have on a fingerboard, like.. it is toxic, harmful or pathogenic in anyway? cus you know, you're gonna be in contact with it quite often (fingerboard + fingers) any suggestions, people? http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=...,42996&ap=1 OMG thanks so much man, i gotta check this place out!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 the black fingerboard dye from stew-mac is nothing but leather dye. You should be able to find that in canada. I have a ? if you stain it before you install inlays or such what do you do when you have to do the touched work from leveling and sanding the inlays and glue. I never understood this and never had any luck with it that way. I always do my staining last. Then clean up the inlays to remove the residue off them. No is not!!! Have you tried both? Because the leather dye barely stained a rosewood board I tested on and the stew mac one covered in the 1st try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTU 7's. Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 yeah i know, but i'm trying to mod an already built guitar what about that steel wool + vinegar trick? is that any good? That thing it's a bad idea, i do it on a old neck and get some scratches, it's better that you use wetsanding method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unrealize Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 I'm having a little issue with this one too, I'm in Norway, and StewMac don't send their stain overseas. I'm sure I can get something useful in shops here, but I wouldn't know what to look for, cause we don't use the terms stain or dye here. We have something called beis that is used to color wood, but leave the figure of the wood. I think that it is generally used on houses tho... Could someone give me more of a hint on what stain and dye really is? Perhaps some of the swedes here could help me out, as we probably have some very similar products... thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdmonster Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 the black fingerboard dye from stew-mac is nothing but leather dye. You should be able to find that in canada. I have a ? if you stain it before you install inlays or such what do you do when you have to do the touched work from leveling and sanding the inlays and glue. I never understood this and never had any luck with it that way. I always do my staining last. Then clean up the inlays to remove the residue off them. No is not!!! Have you tried both? Because the leather dye barely stained a rosewood board I tested on and the stew mac one covered in the 1st try! Well i can tell you i just ordered some from them a few weeks ago, and its Fiebings professional oil dye http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Finishing_supp...es.html#details And its nothing but leather dye you can clearly see from the pic. the horse saddle on it. On the side of the bottle it tells its leather dye and the instructions for its use on brown leather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Leather dye is fine. Also, the vinegar/steel wool trick works. Dissolve oilless steel wool (the finer the better for faster dissolution) in white spirit vinegar. Let it sit, then see how it does on wood. I dilute it with water, wipe on, let it do it's thing, wipe down with distilled water to get it out. Darkens mahogany a LOT (kinda greyish, though), maple a little, walnut a good bit. No clue if it works on rosewood or ebony (needs high tannin content in the woods). Shouldn't affect inlays, etc. etc. etc. at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 There might be different types of leather dyes... cause I used the kiwi one and when that one didn't worked I bought one in a black and blue bottle in a boot repair shop and it was same as the kiwi... I ordered the Stew Mac and it covered much better!!! So if it is leather dye, well all i can say is that not all leather dye will work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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