weezerboy Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 hey there, i've just found this and it showed me that if you **** up your fret slots on the FB then you can carry on and call it revolutionary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 thats pretty cool, inovation rocks, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkle Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 It's a Novax. Charlie Hunter plays one of his guitars, it's guitar/bass. I saw another local jazz guy, named Pete Kraemer (I think) playing one. Cool idea - takes some getting used to. -Sven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 I've read a test about that system a couple years ago in our Guitar/Bass mag but I can't remember what they wrote for the life of me...actually I think it's been quite some time, so I don't know about the "innovation" factor so long ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 i have also seen guitars with that style of fingerboard, and i don't think it's just a random "screw up".... those frets positions have to be just as accurate as any other fingerboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezerboy Posted October 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 for the love of god...I WAS JOKING!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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weezerboy Posted October 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 were ppl thinking that i'd seen this website and not read it, and that i also thought that the luthier had made this and sold it in the hope that no one notices????? OMMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! tomorrow is my birthday and you ppl are making me unhappy...why would you want to do that to me? why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckguitarist Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 john mayer plays those guitars occasionally. i read an interview with him and he said that novax might make a signature john mayer model. but uh...how exactly does this work? just a REALLY compensated nut/saddle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DividedByJames Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 Mike Mushok from Staind used those before his Ibanez endorsement/signature came out. The way I remember them explaining the guitar is that each size string is better suited for a specific scale length for proper resonance and intonation. Guitars maybe 24.75" or 25.0" or 25.5". Baritone and bass are longer...etc. Anyway each of the strings is a different scale length, and therefore to have one fret spanning across the fingerboard, it would have to be diagonal at some points. Imagine the scale length of the low E being a 26", the D being a 25.5" and the A being somewhere in between. Thats basically how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 hmm... be nice to get some actual measurements on the 2 outer scales so someone here could try and build one... ouuu!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsl602000 Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 I know a luthier who built a few guitars like that... it's basically two different scales on each side of the neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roli Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Fast barre chords are a pain to play on it though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckguitarist Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Fast barre chords are a pain to play on it though... thats what i was just thinking, is it even possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbarstrat Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 I don't know what scale lengths are on those basses, but when the Novax fanned fret system came out in the early 90's, the Guitar version that Ralph Novak was building had 25.5" scale for the low E, and 24" scale for the high E. I do sort of prefer the sound of the high E on one of my 24" scale guitars over the high E on my 25.5", for certain songs, but I can't say that I prefer a 25.5" scale low E any more than a 24 3/4" or 25" scale. A 24" low E isn't so great, though. I think a 25" is a good compromise. Ralph has a patent on this fannned fret design, but Sheldon Dingwall must think it's pretty good to pay the fees to Ralph for using it. Interesting that Sheldon is putting phenolic nuts on his basses. I have done that and think it suits basses very well. I've had mixed results with it on guitar, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbarstrat Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Looked in an old Luthier supply catalog, and it says the treble side of the Novax fret-boards were 24.5 " scale. But I think I remember it said they were 24" in an issue of 'American Lutherie', but I sold that mag last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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