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I'm cutting out a new body this weekend for a Kramer style guitar that I am building... I'm thinking I want to just stain it and then seal it... but not sure. I've checked several of the topics here (been lurking for a quite a while) and haven't seen anything specific to this...

Should I stain it first and THEN seal the wood with a good sealer (which seems logical to me) or does it make more sense to seal the body and then stain it... I know I read somewhere that the stain would be absorbed and I might have to do two or three coats. This is a swamp ash body blank and I'm taking my time with this first original project. I've done rebuild projects in the past on three guitars, but I've always done them in a lacquer finish with clear coats on top. On this project, I'm wanting to get the stain to a deep red color (thus the reason for multiple coats) but want it to be sealed and safe. Wondering if I should clear coat with lacquer over the sealer.

Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks.

Jim Stanford

Garland, Texas, USA

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Jim,

I usually like to apply what finishers call a "wash coat" of either a thinned (50% or so) finish or a true sealer, like a vinyl or possibly shellac. That way the stain will absorb more evenly and you will avoid a blotchy appearance that sometimes happens when staining raw wood. This should be a light but even coat. Scuff sand the wash coat with 320 paper to smooth the surface before staining and wipe clean.

Good luck,

Chuck

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Hiya,

I'm yet to build my first body as I'm off on hols for 3 months, but I did rebuild and restore an 8 seater solid timber dining table. Pity I don't have pic's on me, but basically it was a Malaysian medium density timber, not sure what type, and I rebuilt it with solid 150 x 150 furniture grade pine. After sanding down real fine, we stained with walnut stian with only 2 coats or so, then sealed it. When the sealer is dry, sanded that back just a little to get the roughness off the sealer, and this is the scary bit... the sealer turns an off white colour, thinking I had ruined it, but when I put the lacquer on it came up a treat. The more layers of lacquer you put on the more gloss you get. I put 3 coats on, so not much gloss at all, but the table looks unreal.

This has given me a lot more confidence for when I get to stain and seal my first guitar.

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