weezerboy Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 buts he's also ripping off other sites and doesn't want to stop. have u read his feedback????? if anyones says anything bad he's like..."well you can't please everybody" so that is why we need to put a stop to him. Quote Link to comment
Jehle Posted October 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 i don't think kench buyers is his real name though I thought about that, but Kench Byers (no u) is at least a consistent name for the websites that he developed. Quote Link to comment
Jon Bell Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Welcome to BetterBytes! We are glad you stopped by! Thanks for taking the time to get to know us a little better. BetterBytes specializes in quality information training at the lowest possible prices! We have empowered customers with the information they need for over 8 years now, and have no intention of stopping! Take a look at our feedback. But do note the malicious nature of our competitors. They have stopped at nothing to ruin our good name! You can tell this type of feedback when a person has a negative or low feedback rating. Our competitors will make false accounts and bid without even paying just to leave bad feedback. Quote Link to comment
YDoesGodMockMeSo Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 buts he's also ripping off other sites and doesn't want to stop. have u read his feedback????? if anyones says anything bad he's like..."well you can't please everybody" so that is why we need to put a stop to him. yeah and you've already brought it to their attention. Let them fight that battle. And like I said, If people don't read the feedback, and visit the site.. the deserved to be ripped off. Whethor or not he says "can't please everyone". The site would still be in his feedback. And will be there for quiet awhile. Quote Link to comment
Jehle Posted October 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU OF METROPOLITAN ATLANTA INC (404) 688-4190 100 EDGEWOOD ATLANTA, GA 30303 According to the BBB, you can complain online. Surprisingly, there is no record for a Better Bytes in that area. http://www.atlanta.bbb.org/ There is now. Quote Link to comment
canuckguitarist Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Just wondering, have you guys contacted John Fisher? the owner and builder of the strat and lp? i think he'd be pretty pissed too. Here is his site. And here is Mike, the owner of the bass' page. Quote Link to comment
weezerboy Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 john fisher already knows...the link that we found out about this guy is form a post form one of johns friends that i found Quote Link to comment
canuckguitarist Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 is mike, the bass builder, on this forum? i'm going to email him just to let him know about whats going on. ps the wood on that bass is beautiful!!! Quote Link to comment
Jehle Posted October 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 I'm going through reams of paper from the US copyright office, and talking to a lawyer. I was happy to hear the words "potential litigation". They're all sharks. Gotta love that. is mike, the bass builder, on this forum? i'm going to email him just to let him know about whats going on. Go for it. The more the merrier. If he's on eBay he'll probably need to go the Vero route first, and complain to try and get the auctions removed. Ya think eBay will get the idea that this guy is not legit if all the guitar owners on that auction complain?! Quote Link to comment
weezerboy Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 whoah whoah whoah (thats english for stop a horse) didn't GEdwardJones say that he lives near this guy? He should go pay him a visit *if you kow what i mean* Quote Link to comment
rob Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 I hand out the bats! Quote Link to comment
canuckguitarist Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 I hand out the bats! im a baseball player, no shortage of bats here Quote Link to comment
rob Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 then its sorted! Lets get him! Quote Link to comment
weezerboy Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 i hate to break it to you rob but i think its a bit too far from the IOW to georgia Quote Link to comment
westhemann Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 a youth minister aaa?i noticed someone saids that name belongs to a youth minister...i wonder how the church would feel about that?they said the church was within 10 miles of the p.o. box Quote Link to comment
westhemann Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 (copied and pasted) And apparently the con artist's name and address are on his domain registration. Wonder if they're legitimate? I don't know. There's a Kench Byers who's a 23-year-old volunteer part-time youth pastor at the Sugar Hill United Methodist Church in Suwanee, CA at Phone #: (770) 945-2845, Pager #: 770-917-6168 who uses skenchy@bellsouth.net as his email address. Buford and Sugar Hill are all within a 10-mile radius. Hmm. Here's the eBay auctioner's email sig (return addy: service@betterbytes.net )... Quote Link to comment
STAHLER Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 Could you find out where he is from his IP address ??? Or pass his IP on to some hackers lol Quote Link to comment
GEdwardJones Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 didn't GEdwardJones say that he lives near this guy? He should go pay him a visit *if you kow what i mean* As much as I appreciate you volunteering me for violence, I'm too pretty for prison. I think this should be handled nice and legal like. Quote Link to comment
westhemann Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 didn't GEdwardJones say that he lives near this guy? He should go pay him a visit *if you kow what i mean* As much as I appreciate you volunteering me for violence, I'm too pretty for prison. I think this should be handled nice and legal like. yeah,how well is beating the guy up going to work anyway...legal solutions last longer and are much more painful. Quote Link to comment
Ace Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 Jeez, I so can't wait until you have that guy dangling from his balls legally. I just read his ratings and his comments and that guy is simply gross...somebody complained that his product was rubbish and the response was "you sell the same thing, I smell foul play, eBay scum"...YOU SMELL FOULPLAY???? YOU'RE GONNA SMELL THE BREATH OF PRISON PIMP "BUBBA" FOR A COUPLE, A$$WIP3...some people just have no sense of modesty whatsoever. I'm so pissed, and I'm not even one of the persons whose work gets ripped off, so I can only come to think that Jehle's meditation techniques beat mine since he keeps the cool in his postings all the time. You have my respect bro, how do they say, revenge is best when served cold so long ace Quote Link to comment
hushnel Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 Yeah, Mike is a member of this forum, I’m he. I just got an email about this. I emailed the clown but I’ve come to this thread to see what my options are. It seems that I may have no real legal protection for my images but it just irks my butt that this guy is implying that my bass was made using his bogus instruction. I will follow all the correct channels and options available to me before I jump on my hog and blast up to Georgia. I believe they use Lester Maddox’s signature axe handles to deal with this kind of problem up there, that’s showing my age not my acceptance of bigotry. Mike Quote Link to comment
Jehle Posted October 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 I think it comes from learning a lesson through a bitter divorce. There comes a point where emotions are no longer the issue, it's just business. Sure, I was really pissed at this guy for what he's doing at first. But, that's all passed now. This is business. Is it going to cost me money? Yeah, but it's all a tax deduction. Is it going to cost him money? You bet. I'm going to sue him out of business. Why? For the simpe and convenient happenstance that the particular song he posted of mine was released on a CD eariler this year. Iron clad, it's copyright protected and he is in clear violation of copyright laws. The rest is details. The wheels of justice might turn a little slowly, but what comes around goes around. The more he sells, the deeper he digs his own grave (so to speak). Going after his profits is all part of the litigation. And that, will feed back into ProjectGutiar. I may be a capitalist pig for sueing my way to success, but the liberal in me demands that I give it back to the community (here) to set things right. On a related tangent, I need to listen to Les Miserables today. I'll need to start waving that big red flag and singing. "Do you hear the people sing..." Quote Link to comment
zandro Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 Where in the world have I been that I've totally missed this topic?! None of my work is included [as I have yet to do any work] but I wish you luck, Jehle and everyone else. That guy is the lowest of the low. Besides the ProjectGuitar stuff and the skateboard ramp stuff, he also sells "educational CD-ROMs" which, from what I can gather from his feedback, are nothing but screenshots of whatever program. Maybe we could get Microsoft to bring some heat down. Quote Link to comment
zandro Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 Some miscellaneous information I've just gathered: The "email the bidders and tell them it's a rip off" plan won't work. His guitar auctions are private, so you can't see the bidders' email addresses. Clever, but shady and utterly dishonest. There's no valid reason for those auctions to be private, other than the fact that he knows he's doing something wrong. Also, check out this page: http://betterbytes.net/internetlistings.htm Scroll down to the "miscellaneous library set." He's selling the Lord of the Rings trilogy and 47 books by Stephen King. That's a copyright violation for sure - unless this guy is an authorized bookseller .. which, you know, is likely given his honest and upstanding nature. Quote Link to comment
Jehle Posted October 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 (edited) Ah, I finally got his attention. In addition to this happy news, I did a who is search on "betterbytes.net" and found that he registered the domain with twocows.com (tucows.com). Given the fact that this guy is selling stollen goods, that may be grounds for having his website closed down. Here's the info from www.networksolutions.com: Domain Name: BETTERBYTES.NET Registrar: TUCOWS, INC. Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net Referral URL: http://www.opensrs.org Name Server: NS6.READYHOSTING.COM Name Server: NS5.READYHOSTING.COM Status: ACTIVE Updated Date: 15-nov-2002 Creation Date: 13-nov-2001 Expiration Date: 13-nov-2003 --------------------------------- I didn't see where it was copyrighted but if you say it is then I will remove it and all related information from my auction. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience I may have caused. If you are really interested in sharing your knowledge with people you might want to offer it on ebay at cost. Just a thought. -----Original Message----- From: jehle@hiwaay.net [mailto:jehle@hiwaay.net] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 9:24 PM To: service@betterbytes.net Subject: Question for seller -- Item #2568996933 Kench Byers, Despite my many complaints, you continue to offer a CD containing information and photos on the the Planarian Telecaster and the copyright recording Vegetarian_Planarian.mp3 also featured in your auction. You are in violation of copyright laws because you have used the image of the guitar and the MP3 without my consent for your financial gain. I, and many other users from ProjectGuitar.com, are signing up with eBays Vero program. Any existing and future auctions will be terminated with the help of eBay's Vero program. I have already contacted my lawer about your copyright infringement of my property. If you do not stop selling this CD, I will open litigation on you and your company. Sincerely, Bill Jehle -------------------- Question from: jehle_hiwaay_net Title of item: How to Build Les Paul Strat Tele Bass Guitar! Seller: betterbytes Starts: Oct-29-03 09:57:33 PST Ends: Nov-05-03 09:57:33 PST Price: Currently $4.95 To view the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=2568996933 Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at http://www.ebay.com Edited October 31, 2003 by Jehle Quote Link to comment
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