goat Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 My fretwire from stew-mac recommends a .024 slot. Mine are cut .026 Will this be O.K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 You better get out the glue then.. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannoG Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 Not all fretwire has the same tang width. Some is made for refretting and is wider. I think StewMac #147 is wider, just off the top of my head, better check the specs. You could save the stuff you have for the next guitar and order new for the .026 board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zandro Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 My fretwire from stew-mac recommends a .024 slot. Mine are cut .026 Will this be O.K? Also keep in mind the StewMac Fret Tang Crimper. It crimps the tangs so they fit in wider slots. However, it's $37.55 [what?! StewMac overcharging for something?! NO!!], so it'd be way cheaper just to find some fretwire that fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goat Posted October 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 I remember reading in an earlier post a little larger was O.K. to prevent backbow. It`s .002 difference. They are not just dropping into place,but if I have to,I`ll fill with glue. Thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbarstrat Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 Should work fine. After all, it's an ebony board, that's never had frets before, right ? I wouldn't be surprised if you still get a little backbow if the fret tang beads are around .037". If it was me, I'd probably even mash the beads down , but we won't get into that, becaue I don't know the exact specs of your frets, or what kind of system you are using to install them. With the old-style hammer-in method, they even expect some backbow, and plan to loosen the truss-rod later to get the necks as straight as they can, to mill the fret-tops. problem is that it usually doesn't get perfectly straight, so they have to mill a little more off the fret-tops to get them all level. Yes, you'll need glue, because you'll have quite a gap between the slot walls and fret tang. Or you can look for other fret-wire, if you don't like that big gap. I guess I wouldn't like a gap like that either. On a .026" slot, on Ebony, I would prefer a tang width of .0255". I've never had that size slot, though, so it would be something new. I guess I'd have to order wire from Martin Co, with a tang width of .0275", and shave it down to .0255" and then even punch some new beads in, and shave those down to be no more than .027 wide, for my fretting method, but your method might be different. But, I should stop writing about what I prefer, because it's not the only way. If you want to master the old hammer-in method, you might be better off to not even read my fretting style preferences. Dan Erlewine did sound transmission tests on various fretting styles, and came to the conclusion that frets that had no glue at all, had the most poor reading on the meter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goat Posted November 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 Should work fine. After all, it's an ebony board, that's never had frets before, right ? Dan Erlewine did sound transmission tests on various fretting styles, and came to the conclusion that frets that had no glue at all, had the most poor reading on the meter. I used a caul press.They went in fine.I put glue on the left and right of the slot leaving a space in the middle so the fret would seat. Checking my receipts,I got my fretwire from Warmoth.It is #6150. I don`t know what size the slot was supposed to be.I don`t know why I had in my mind .024 The .026 slot worked out fine. If anyone knows the tang dimensions for 6150 wire I`m curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannoG Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 According to their site, it is .020 for the tang width and .031 for the tang width. http://www.jimdunlop.com/maintenence/fretchart.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannoG Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 Uhh, make that .020 for the tang and .31 for the barb width... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goat Posted November 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 According to their site, it is .020 for the tang width and .031 for the tang width. Thanks Danno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbarstrat Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 What kind of glue did you use ? (if super glue, water thin, medium or gel ?). I'm thinking about trying the gel type, because I assume less of the glue goes soaking far into the wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goat Posted November 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 What kind of glue did you use ? (if super glue, water thin, medium or gel ?). I'm thinking about trying the gel type, because I assume less of the glue goes soaking far into the wood. I used Titebond. I think the superglues are not good because the joint gets ruined if you ever have to re-fret. Bob Benedetto does it this way(Titebond) on all his guitars.Just leave some out in the middle and a little on the sides(especially if you have binding) for run out.Too much glue and it may not seat because of pressure. He`s a master luthier and some of his guitars sell for $50,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Litchfield Custom Gutars Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 I just had the same problem. I juts took a pair if need nose pliers and bent the tang to expand it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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