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Possible Guitar Shape Part 2


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Okay, I've incorporated the suggestions of Wes and others regarding stability, by moving the entire body closer to the headstock by about 3/4". I also added a "nubbin" to the upper horn. Thoughts?

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I have to say, I anticipate that a majority of you won't like this body design, but I love it! This is definitely what I'm going to use .. unless anyone has reservations on the stability?

I know I also am going to change the headstock - I just don't like the one on it right now - far too bland. It's just been difficult coming up with a straight-pull headstock design that isn't ugly or a PRS ripoff.

Anyway, I'm specifically looking for thoughts on stability, but if you want to comment on the looks, feel free. Just know that I'm set on them. :D

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whooo

I like that .... much better. Very cool in my book.

I went through the same thing with my design with respect to the headstock. Can you see a dxf or dwg (Acad 2002) file? I could send you a copy of my 3+3 just to give you some idea of what I'm doing. I went through a bunch of drawings and like what I have now. May not go with your desing but may be the creative gas flowing. If you like it I don't mind you using it as long as I get credit (grin).

Cheers

John

jbyrne39056@cs.com

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I like that .... much better. Very cool in my book.

I went through the same thing with my design with respect to the headstock. Can you see a dxf or dwg (Acad 2002) file? I could send you a copy of my 3+3 just to give you some idea of what I'm doing. I went through a bunch of drawings and like what I have now. May not go with your desing but may be the creative gas flowing. If you like it I don't mind you using it as long as I get credit (grin).

Hey, thanks man, though I'm surprised someone other than me likes it. For some reason I thought people might think it's ugly. :D

Anyway, yeah, I can open both DXF and DWG files in CADkey [though it doesn't always import them correctly]. I'd love to see your design. My email address is alek@threespace.org, zip it on over anytime.

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I forgot just how many polylines I used in this drawing. Makes for a huge DXF. I cut a bunch out and file is still huge. I don't have broadband so its uploading right now. Will be coming your way in about 20 minutes. FIles is about 13 meg. DWG with everything is about 3meg. DXF isn't best way to do this I guess but I had it started before I realized just how big the file is and figured I let it go on. Darn, I hope you can get it and it works. Let me know.

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I forgot just how many polylines I used in this drawing. Makes for a huge DXF. I cut a bunch out and file is still huge. I don't have broadband so its uploading right now. Will be coming your way in about 20 minutes. FIles is about 13 meg. DWG with everything is about 3meg. DXF isn't best way to do this I guess but I had it started before I realized just how big the file is and figured I let it go on. Darn, I hope you can get it and it works. Let me know.

Ouch, 13 meg? Don't know if that'll get through email or not. If not, d'you have an AIM or Y!M account? Maybe we could transfer it that way. Or, you could just take a screenshot and send it to me.

Hopefully the mail goes through, though.

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No problem mate - I'm on cable, so I just got the file [luckily it came through just fine].

I like your headstock design - probably won't fit what I'm going to do but it will serve for inspiration.

Oh, and BTW, do you have any pics of this guitar? It looks freaking amazing in wireframe!

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Since that one worked forget the next two (grin).

no pics, not built yet, just getting started.

Run down

Neck, center 1/2" black walnut with outer being hard maple with some flame.

Rear wings, black walnut with nice grain for horns

Headstock, flame maple veneer

fretboard, have very nice cocobolo but may change due to glue problems

top Beautifulllllll single (not bookmatched) maple very flamed, nice

As is will be heavy and bright so taking (spreadsheet calculation) 0.84 lbs out in chambers for final body weight of 4.31 calculated (should be very close, have wood and weighed it, got density, calculated volume in cad, etc). Should make it warmer too. Is the mechanical engineer in me showing .... grin ....

Thanks for kind words. I'm sure I'll post when done. BTW, did a 1/4 scale model of body and part of neck using florist foam. Looks awsome IMHO Don't have much time to work so will probably be summer when finished. Hey, this is for fun so time isn't an issue.

Cheers, thanks for the kind words again, and great luck and success with yours

John

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Brian:  I like this new design more then the last one.

Apparently my theory that people would like this one less was incorrect. B)

LCG: Kinda Ric 650 like...I didnt see the old one...but this is killer...Neck Thru? Set? Bolt In? I reccoment a deep set (past the NP) for this

Yeah, the Ric 650 was the original idea. I like it because it still has that same basic shape but isn't flat-butted and too "squat." The original can be seen in the "Possible Guitar Shape" thread.

It's going to be neck through, built off a Carvin NT6K pre-made neck.

Wes: i like it much better..the stability should be much better too.

if you feel you have upper access problems you could put a scallop in the lower cutaway like this one

it is difficult to see you have to look hard

I figured stability should be better. Thanks for the input, man. I thought about scalloping the lower cutaway ala PRS but decided, since there's not even a full two frets past the edge of the body, fret access should be fine.

BTW, you sure that was the right link dude? I mean, it was funny, but I didn't see anything guitar related. :D

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:D ZANDRO.

I passed the old design past the arty type and within a few minutes she had pulled it to bits and put it back together again. She actually liked it but the only issue that she had is the area on the bottom/left of the guitar (as you look at the picture). She thinks that the curve and cut away should be slightly smoother.

I much prefer this new design, there should be a 'kicks ass' smilie especially for occassions such as this.

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B) ZANDRO.

I passed the old design past the arty type and within a few minutes she had pulled it to bits and put it back together again. She actually liked it but the only issue that she had is the area on the bottom/left of the guitar (as you look at the picture). She thinks that the curve and cut away should be slightly smoother.

I much prefer this new design, there should be a 'kicks ass' smilie especially for occassions such as this.

Yay! Thanks a lot man, I appreciate it!

The area I think you're talking about is the intersection of the butt and the "knee-rest," directly under the bridge, right? If so, it's actually smoother than it looks. The problem with taking using a JPEG to show a CAD drawing is that you can't zoom - so you're seeing a guitar that's 30+ inches long in the space of about 10 inches, and the resolution doesn't allow the curves to look as smooth as the actually are. I agree that, from the picture, it looks too sharp, but if I zoom in on it in CADkey, it's actually quite smooth.

But again, thanks for passing it by the arty-type, I appreciate it! :D:D

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