DaveK Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Just thought you would lik to know...This weekend was the Detroit Guitar show hosted by Gordy's music. Other than some PHENOMINAL local Bass Luthiers..I thought the show was uneventful & a waste of money. UNTIL I SAW A FULL BOTH OF MCNAUGHT GUITARS!!! I have NEVER seen beter quilted finishes in my life! The dyeing technique, the color, the tone were all flawless! If you ever have a chance to check one out, do so! However, I almost dropped when I saw that the pricetag of my favorite one was $10,000!!!! If anyone knows where this guy get's his dyes, please let me know! Dave K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Litchfield Custom Gutars Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Dont know....but check out ed roman....email him or DTM. i'm sure you can find out. Let us know...and do contact ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted November 12, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Do you honestly think that Ed Roman will share McNaught's finishing secrets? I have talked to Roman a couple of times & I have found him to be..........let's just say "less than helpful" If you have a good relationship wiht him & think that he would share this info, let me know Dave K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Litchfield Custom Gutars Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Ed tends to be alittle short on the phone, but remember he runs a busy shop and store in vegas, and a shop in conneticut. Scott is very helpful, and so is Alan, when you can talk to him. Email is Scott@edromanguitars.com & Alan@edromanguitars.com. Bear in mind they are busy too, so they might have to be short. Scott and I have had a few PRS covs. For instance, I brought to his attention to compare a Hamer Sunburst Archtop and a PRS Santana III. Direct copy. PRS tried to copyright a Hamer design. ***? Um...finishes, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimm Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Ed Roman is a troll and should be avoided like the black death...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Litchfield Custom Gutars Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Why would you say that? By what right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Ed Roman is a troll and should be avoided like the black death...... but seriously now, i've never actually talked to him... but i've heard stories.. but jimm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Damn, sure is a lotta playa-hatin' aimed at Ol' Ed these days. While I agree he can be an opinionated asshole, he's been really civil to me in the several phone conversations I've had with him, and he's damn sure done right by McNaught, hyping him to the hilt! Call him, he can't infect you over the phone, and you're bound to learn something (even if it's only that calling him is a waste of time). Or call McNaught ((704) 888-3363) - he might tell you. I'm sure he's using metal acid dyes, but who makes 'em is anybody's guess. I'm also convinced that part of the magic is the way he matches colors/shades with the figure in his tops. Nobody, not even Terry McInturff, does it better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 i just like to go to his site and look at his gorgeous instruments.not too many people have guitars like that on their sites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted November 13, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 metal acid dye? I have never heard of it what is it & where do you get it? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkdefino Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Metal Acid Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 hmmm he does do some good work, funny how there isn't a single price on the page though how much do his guitars go for a peice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted November 13, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 $4000 to $10000 (and higher) list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted November 13, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Well, I just got off the phone with Mr. McNaught himself! He was a SUPER cool guy! What he told me & swears this to be true...is that he is using the same water based dyes that you get from Stu Mac or LMI The trick is that the dyes & sands down at least 4 times for each guitar He says that it is extremely labour intensive & he gets call all the time from other guitar companies asking the same thing. I believe him! He was very helpfull & told me "it all starts with a great piece of wood & a lot of patience" Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antique_dream Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 DaveK, I actually went to the same guitar show, I agree that it was pretty uneventful. I did, however, get a good trade with a guy from Ray's music. He took a modified strat-copy I had and gave me a Danelectro Mod 7 (a very awesome, underrated guitar). The McNaught guitars were really cool, even though I have to say I liked the custom basses a lot more (they had a 6-string made from goncalo alves, I think, that I couldn't take my eyes off). Other than that, it was pretty dull. It seemed like most of the guys there wouldn't touch anything that wasn't "vintage". I'm not really into the whole vintage thing, so I didn't feel the show was "for me". By the way, whereabouts in Detroit are you located, DaveK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted November 13, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Do you know where Novi is? Where are you at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antique_dream Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Southwest Detroit- Mexicantown... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Litchfield Custom Gutars Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Damn, sure is a lotta playa-hatin' aimed at Ol' Ed these days. While I agree he can be an opinionated asshole, he's been really civil to me in the several phone conversations I've had with him, and he's damn sure done right by McNaught, hyping him to the hilt! Call him, he can't infect you over the phone, and you're bound to learn something (even if it's only that calling him is a waste of time). I assure you it wont be. Yes he's opinionated. Should this hurt? Personally, he has some strong opinions...I smoke, he is VERY anti smoking. Does this affect anything? yes. I dont even bring it up. We agree to disagree. As for his credibility, until you can tell me how it has faults, shut up and dont try to ruin a friend of mine's business. PS Thx Lovekraft for also saying the above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 I always post in Ed's favor. I bought some stuff from him a few years ago, and talked to him on the phone a few times, it was no different than any other normal, regular guitar-related transaction I've done with any other business, he's fine in my book, and has one of the nicest websites out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Litchfield Custom Gutars Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 Thanx Drak. I guess I kinda needed that....sorry I was a little pissy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEdwardJones Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 Y'know, I don't know Ed Roman. I've never dealt with him personally and I seriously doubt that I ever will for several reasons. Not the least of which are the negative experiences that several people I know and trust have had with him. Also some of the statements he's made on his website give me the same feeling as that car salesman who tried to sell me two different "Certified" BMW 7 series, one with a broken steering wheel and the other with a broken trunk and stereo (specifically I'm thinking about how he LOVED Ibanez guitars then, when his contract got cancelled he not only started talking badly about them, but *ALL* Japanese guitars. There are other things, but the xenophobic statements have always struck me as asinine). Look, Ed might be the sweetest most kindest mostest honestest businessman ever to crawl from the womb, but that's not only not his reputation, but that's not the impression he gives a good number of people who've attempted to deal with him. If you want people to stop speaking badly of Ed it might be good to get Ed to stop giving them reason to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted November 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 Wow! How did my thread on Mcnaught Guitar finishes & the Detroit Guitar show turn into "the Ed Roman show" My only interaction with hte guy was that he was somewhat opinionated & wanted to charge HIGH prices...but as I think about it, I am opinionated & I like making money as well Does that make me an A**hole? Now, can I have my thread back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 well you will learn soon enough that mentioning his name ALWAYS gauranties a rant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsl602000 Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 As for his credibility, until you can tell me how it has faults, shut up and dont try to ruin a friend of mine's business. oh, gimme a break... just because someone on an internet forum doesn't like the guy, he's ruining a business???? Look what you did! You almost ruined Taco Bell!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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