Azrael Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 Up until recently, I had been setting aside money for an SG-ish build that had a bolt-on neck, which was to come from Musikraft. However, I've decided to change it to a neck-through build. But I'd like to do my own fingerboard edges, like musikraft's: https://musikraft.3dcartstores.com/Semi-Ver...s_c_16-1-1.html How do I go about doing that? It looks really comfortable, and players who own it, that I've talked to, seem to love it. Quote
Telesque Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 Up until recently, I had been setting aside money for an SG-ish build that had a bolt-on neck, which was to come from Musikraft. However, I've decided to change it to a neck-through build. But I'd like to do my own fingerboard edges, like musikraft's: https://musikraft.3dcartstores.com/Semi-Ver...s_c_16-1-1.html How do I go about doing that? It looks really comfortable, and players who own it, that I've talked to, seem to love it. I know I'm new here, but couldn't that just be done with a sandpaper sponge? Most fretboards are finished along the edges, even if they aren't across the playing surface, but is that a big concern if you're sanding the edge down? Quote
WezV Posted January 6, 2008 Report Posted January 6, 2008 its most commonly done with a sharp razor blade used as a scraper. Starting neary flat on the fretboard face, scraping a few times between the frets, re-angling it between each stroke till you have the blade nearly flat on the fretboard edge. Its simpler than i just described it so hopefully someone will come along and word it better takes a little practice but once you get a feel for it you can zoom along Quote
j. pierce Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 Granted, I've been working on bound boards, so maybe it's different, but when beveling the fret ends, I just keep going until the beveling file takes off a slight amount of the edge of the fingerboard as well. I smooth things out a bit with sandpaper over a sponge and the micromesh pads; just finish sanding, no real material removal, then move on to dressing the fret ends. I could be misunderstanding, but the effect should be the same? Quote
Azrael Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Posted January 7, 2008 (edited) ^No, that sounds like it would work. I just wanted to double check, and make sure that way the best way to do it. Edited January 7, 2008 by Azrael Quote
westhemann Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 I use a sanding sponge...it works perfectly and takes about two minutes....After all of the fret dressing and all is done. Quote
scab Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 Granted, I've been working on bound boards, so maybe it's different, but when beveling the fret ends, I just keep going until the beveling file takes off a slight amount of the edge of the fingerboard as well. I smooth things out a bit with sandpaper over a sponge and the micromesh pads; just finish sanding, no real material removal, then move on to dressing the fret ends. I could be misunderstanding, but the effect should be the same? I do pretty much the same thing.. I thought it was done on all guitars but basically i take a mill basterd file and file the edges @ an angle (about 30°) while doing that i continue the angle until approx. 1/32" of the fingerboard is also exposed on the chamfer.. regards, Scab Quote
soapbarstrat Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 You can lose some precious playing surface area on your frets if you include the frets with the "edge softening" process. Depends on how wide your neck is/ how close strings are to neck edges. That link shows some good pics of it though. Everytime someone asks what the hell "rolled edges" are, they should be directed to those photos. Quote
Azrael Posted January 11, 2008 Author Report Posted January 11, 2008 ^Luckily, I like semi-wide necks, so it shouldn't be a problem. Quote
killemall8 Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 i am missing this. what is the difference? i dont see a difference between that pic and any other fretboard. Quote
oz tradie Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 i am missing this. what is the difference? i dont see a difference between that pic and any other fretboard. The first pic has sharp f/board edges and the second has an arris rolled into it for comfort and feel. It's all there. cheers, Stu Quote
killemall8 Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 i am missing this. what is the difference? i dont see a difference between that pic and any other fretboard. The first pic has sharp f/board edges and the second has an arris rolled into it for comfort and feel. It's all there. cheers, Stu i still cant tell the differnce, they look identical to me Quote
WezV Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 well its a subtle effect - but one that makes a big difference to feel!! Quote
scab Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 well I know i haven't done a million of these things (refrets & building) but I have never had a problem w/ "loosing valuble fingerboard". It's very very miniscule, no more than 1/32" on each side. But I do respect your opinion. I really thought that this was industry standard, b/c it makes dressing the fret ends a breeze and feels soooo good Quote
westhemann Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 You can lose some precious playing surface area on your frets if you include the frets with the "edge softening" process. I bevel my fret ends way less than "industry standard",so I never have a problem.My strings don't slip off like they do sometimes on factory guitars. I also use SS frets,so the sanding sponge barely affects them.It works very well.For me anyway.Only takes a few seconds each side of the neck with a fine sponge. Quote
Azrael Posted January 11, 2008 Author Report Posted January 11, 2008 ^Well, ideally, the frets get affected too, I thought. That's why Musikraft does it after the necks are fretted. Quote
soapbarstrat Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 I don't like the fret end bevel more than 35 degrees. And I guess when I soften the edge of the board (between the fret ends), that would be more like a 45 degree (although I'm not using a file, and not going about it the same way as beveling fret ends). Did not mean you're certain to have a problem if you bevel hard into the board, but it's something to watch out for on a lot of common necks. Back in the 80's , Chandler guitar parts had a few large boxes of "factory second" necks they were blowing out the door for $40 per neck. I bought one, and the only fault I could find is that the large frets had a 45 degree bevel, and the E strings would push right off the edge of the neck as soon as you tried to fret the string. These were wide Jackson copy necks and my bridge was a genuine Floyd. Quote
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