southpaw rocker Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 I have to start from the beginning. About nine months ago I bought a guitar body off of ebay. I'm pretty sure the description was right. It said it was a Schecter Omen TOM/string thru made of Basswood. I threw an EMG 81/85 combo in there and stuck my favorite Squier bolt-on neck on it. I thought it sounded awesome but needed to be tuned. Lo and behold after 15 minutes of double and triple checking my tuning it still sounded out of tune. I finally figured out that the scale wasn't right. I've checked specs and the Omen is (at least now it is) a 25.5'' scale. I'm pretty sure (although I'm not sure why) that this guitar body is suppose to have a 24.75'' scale neck. The other thought I had was a question. Is there a difference between a 22 fret 25.5 and a 24 fret 25.5''(because the fender neck is 22 frets and the original neck was 24)? can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 could it not just be intonation? i would check that. tune the open e perfect with a tuner, then fret it at the 12th and see how much its off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick500 Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Measure from the break of the strings over the nut, to the 12th fret. The bridge saddles should all have that same distance, measured from the 12th fret (plus a few millimeters), within their range of adjustment. If not, it's not the right neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw rocker Posted May 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 I'm pretty sure all fretted note were sharp. For all that I have researched about guitars I know nothing of intonation. How would I adjust the bridge (TOM) if it were that. I know they have screws in the back but what would I listen for? I'll also measure scale again to see if I can come up with any clues if it's not the intonation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw rocker Posted May 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Thanks Rick I'll try that too. When I measured for scale I measured total distance based on the fact that knew the neck was a 25.5'' but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Measure from the break of the strings over the nut, to the 12th fret. The bridge saddles should all have that same distance, measured from the 12th fret (plus a few millimeters), within their range of adjustment. If not, it's not the right neck. you cant possible do it by ear. you need a good tuner. then you adjust the string saddle closer or farther depending on if its sharp or flat. if its flat, you move it twards the nut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbarstrat Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 That Squire neck probably has an over-hang at the end, and the Schecter body might have a neck pocket routed for a neck that doesn't have an over-hang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 That Squire neck probably has an over-hang at the end, and the Schecter body might have a neck pocket routed for a neck that doesn't have an over-hang. Isn't the original guitar a 24-fret guitar? I don't recall ever seeing a 24-fret Squier....There's no way a 21-fret or 22-fret neck, with or without overhang, will work with this guitar. So you'll have to pick up a new neck. And it looks like they're 25.5 inch scale (which will be easier to find). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw rocker Posted May 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Yeah I figured out last night that it was a 25.5 24 fret (I now know that it makes a difference). The problem is finding a 24 fret neck. The 24s from warmoth won't work because of the fact that they are extension necks. Anybody got an Omen bolt-on 24? Thanks for helping me see my own stupidity, guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 check out ebay. there are so many 24 fret 25.5 scale necks for cheap. that is the most common by far. just type in jackson guitar neck, ibanez guitar neck, or any major brand. most have some that arnt brand name, but are listed as will fit those brands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbarstrat Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I know a guy who hates rosewood fret-boards so bad, that he bought a maple board Warmoth neck meant for a strat pocket, but he put it on his Washburn Nuno body and had some "Luthier/tech" put a filler piece in the neck pocket so the Warmoth neck would sit in the proper location in the pocket. I think that was a stupid thing to do. I have the rosewood neck from his Washburn, but it's a 22 fretter and wouldn't work on your body from what you've described. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anderekel Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) Well, they do make one, cause I'm lookin' at one right now, it's out of the guitar I'm partin' out for my build. It's from a Washburn HM-80. So you can find them, you just gotta look hard, I was plannin' on sellin' the neck and body to a friend of mine to paint, cause he just wants to do it for fun. I'll ask him if he would be happy with just the body and if he is I'll sell ya the neck, if you want that is. Edited May 3, 2008 by anderekel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzilla Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Well, they do make one, cause I'm lookin' at one right now, it's out of the guitar I'm partin' out for my build. It's from a Washburn HM-80. So you can find them, you just gotta look hard, I was plannin' on sellin' the neck and body to a friend of mine to paint, cause he just wants to do it for fun. I'll ask him if he would be happy with just the body and if he is I'll sell ya the neck, if you want that is. I'm interested anderekel......but I still would like to where i could get a bolt on 24.5 over the counter for a tele. no one has really answered the op's oq. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 I'm interested anderekel......but I still would like to where i could get a bolt on 24.5 over the counter for a tele. no one has really answered the op's oq. We answered his question, the answer was "no, that neck won't work either." Warmoth makes a 24.5" scale conversion neck. And I know that some strat and tele copies use the shorter scale -- I had an Applause strat that was 24.5" and I have a Jackson neck here which is 24.5" and has 24 frets. But really, a telecaster is supposed to be 25.5". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzilla Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 We answered his question, the answer was "no, that neck won't work either." I'm sorry.....maybe you could just point me to that post in this thread....I just don't see it. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Okay, so you're a drummer, I'll try to speak more slowly. Post #8 will pretty much cover it. See, sometimes it's not what a person is asking, it's what they want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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