86barettaguy Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 before you start working on the actual body, make a template. having a good template makes things a lot easier. plus, you'll make most of the serious mistakes with the template and won't have to buy another truckload of wood. have you considered neck-through? I'm thinking a neck-through would be easier to plan than a separate neck and body. trying to picture what you're after... a JEM with a more strat-like shape, set neck and carved top. basically a 24-fret strat with a carved top and a monkey-grip? how about doing a kisekae JEM and modify it in photoshop (or whatever imaging software you have) to resemble what you're going for? I think it would look better without a pickguard (strats get away with it because they look naked without the pickguard), but that's all up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renablistic Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 ya, grohl's acriylic isn't too muddy at all. Maybe because he uses all high tone settings when he uses the acrylic on stage, to un-muddy it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 meh.......... i like the foo fighters i just happened to know that acrylic is an extremely sound dampening material. www.omegamp.com www.xoxideforums.com i've worked with it for over 4 years now. completed many projects with it. I've used that propierty of it for the better sometimes but i just cannot see HOW you could get a decent sound from an all acrylic body. Wait a minute... you're saying that 4 years of experience using acrylics in computer case mods somehow translates to knowing how acrylics will sound as a guitar? How many acrylic bodied GUITARS have you built? How many acrylic bodied GUITARS have you played? I seem to recall reading about computer cases made from wood... and how good a sound dampening material it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted December 15, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 ? sau what? computer cases are VERY rarely made from wood. and i was talking about special fan things called fan shims usually made from a completly non resonant material such as acrylic. i made a computer speaker housing a tweet a sub and 2 mid speakers. all were attached through the acrylic to stealth the wires and lead to the grounding metal. however the sound SUCKED. The tones were mixed, but it looked cool. EVERYTHING seeped into eachother and there was a very teeny sound. No bass what soever dispite the subwoofer. total crap for tonal exchange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 bc rich made a line of acrylic guitars,did they not...?i heard that they were very clear and bright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 wood is a goodsound dampening material...i would think reflection of sound(as in a speaker box or dampening)would be a different thing from tone as a guitar....but even if acrylic is completely non resonant,i think all you would hear would be the strings themselves,which still would not be muddy.i think muddiness comes from the vibrations of the strings being translated through a material...if it doesn't translate the vibrations,then all you hear is string....see what i mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 bc rich made a line of acrylic guitars,did they not...?i heard that they were very clear and bright. Yes I think they have and I'm sure they sound fine. I just find it strange that Snork keeps saying "From my experience using acrylic in computers, I conclude that all guitars made from it are muddy" instead of "From all the acrylic guitars that I've played or built, I conclude that they are muddy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 he is young...he will learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted December 15, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 ok i built a SPEAKER system. AUDIO out of acrylic. I am almost positive that you will not get as good a tone out of acrylic as you would with any wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckguitarist Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 bc rich made a line of acrylic guitars,did they not...?i heard that they were very clear and bright. you might as well just sling a couple of dumbells around your neck while your are at it though. SO HEAVY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowser Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 still though, an acrylic topped guitar can't sound anywhere as "muddy" as an all acrylic guitar, and if they sounded that bad i don't think bcrich would have made them or joe would have played the crystal planets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted December 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 ok regarding the comment about acrylic being heavy. NO WAY DUDE. compared to wood acrylic is a feather. I still say acrylic is one raunchy tone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 ok regarding the comment about acrylic being heavy. NO WAY DUDE. compared to wood acrylic is a feather. I still say acrylic is one raunchy tone Hmm... you really should check your facts before posting. Clear acrylic has a specific gravity of 1.19 meaning it'd sink in water... and wood generally floats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 here ya go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 here ya go HA!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renablistic Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 lol, snork, snork, snork... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted December 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 you guys are so dumb. WOOD IS POROUS. ACRYLIC IS A MANUFACTURED PLASTIC WITH NO PORES! IT WEIGHS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN WOOD. HOly crap you guys are so stupid when you diss me about this SH**. try looking up the density of acrylic and compare it to maple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted December 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 * wood is pourous so it floats. it has boyant propierties. i.e pumice a very pourous rock floats. you stupid a$$ sh**s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 * wood is pourous so it floats. it has boyant propierties. i.e pumice a very pourous rock floats. you stupid a$$ sh**s just wanted to quote this before you edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 you guys are so dumb. WOOD IS POROUS. ACRYLIC IS A MANUFACTURED PLASTIC WITH NO PORES! IT WEIGHS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN WOOD. HOly crap you guys are so stupid when you diss me about this SH**. try looking up the density of acrylic and compare it to maple. this too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 btw no more help from me for you..i refuse to help you with that temper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsl602000 Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 this would be good enough for a ban, right? we're dumb and stupid....is that what we get in return for trying to help you out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renablistic Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 snork, and i thought we were twins... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 also the #1 complaint about acrylic guitars by people who play them is the weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 try looking up the density of acrylic and compare it to maple. Um, I hate to break it to you, specific gravity IS a measure of density. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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