troyw Posted January 8, 2009 Report Posted January 8, 2009 I'm buying new tuners for an upcoming build and wanted to input on these two models. Sperzel TrimLock OR Wilkinson EZ LOK The guitar will be a strat body with a Carvin bolt on neck. Probably a vintage 6 hole wilkinson trem. Feedback please..thanks! Troy Quote
WezV Posted January 8, 2009 Report Posted January 8, 2009 sperzels hands down. the wilkinson EZ lok are just a two holed post and i find them awkward to string up but i am sure with practice it gets easier, does deem fiddly though http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/ac...on_ez_lock.html trimlocks are a proper locking tuner as in they have a clamp to lock the string in place http://www.specialtyguitars.com/sperzel.html Quote
Rick500 Posted January 8, 2009 Report Posted January 8, 2009 I like Sperzels better than anything else I've tried. Quote
jmrentis Posted January 9, 2009 Report Posted January 9, 2009 Sperzels! Even more so now after my friend ran into tuner issues with a bass and ended up dealing with Sperzel directly, great people, great service, great product. I believe you can just order directly from them now, that is what the owner told my friend. Their number is probably on their site. J Quote
SwedishLuthier Posted January 9, 2009 Report Posted January 9, 2009 You cannot really compare the Wilkinson EZ-LOK to any other real locking tuner. I got a set of Wilkinson for my Bigsby-equipped Tele and I must say that even thou the guitar isn't finished yet, I have already started to regret that choice. It is, as Wez said awkward to string, but even more awkward to get the strings off. And during pre-finish testing I had to take the strings on and off a few times to adjust the placements of the hardware. I almost threw the tuners out the window. I had to use pliers to get the strings off the guitar (didn't want to cut them off and use new once every time). Hm, had a look at the reverend page. They recommend cutters to remove the strings. I think I will have to get new tuners. Anyone up for a set of almost brand new Wilkinson's? My personal favorites, when we are talking locking tuners, are Grover. You might give them a try. Super smooth tuners and a locking system that doesn't bite. And no bulky locking nut under the head that adds weight. Quote
WezV Posted January 9, 2009 Report Posted January 9, 2009 you see i had forgoten about actually trying to remove the string... the EZ locks definately suck i know i ended up just using one hole and tuning as normal on the guitar i was working on Quote
Batfink Posted January 9, 2009 Report Posted January 9, 2009 And the Wilkinson's are brittle, i had one crack on me without the slightest provication......never again. Quote
Xanthus Posted January 9, 2009 Report Posted January 9, 2009 Sperzels. Although, in comparing them to the Wilkinson, I bought a pair of open-back Sperzels to use with my Flying V project. They're similarly set up as the Wilkinson, but only require about 1/3 rotation around the post to get to the other hole, and no funky wrapping. Just over the top, turn 1/3 rotation, down through the hole and out the back of the tuner. Removing the strings is pretty easy as well, and the exposed gears look great. I've had Sperzels for a while, but I'm willing to try the Grovers. Anyone know if they come in black? Quote
mammoth guitars Posted January 9, 2009 Report Posted January 9, 2009 My personal favorites, when we are talking locking tuners, are Grover. You might give them a try. Super smooth tuners and a locking system that doesn't bite. And no bulky locking nut under the head that adds weight. +1 Grover locking, super simple, lower weight. I've had Sperzels for a while, but I'm willing to try the Grovers. Anyone know if they come in black? Yes. Quote
SwedishLuthier Posted January 9, 2009 Report Posted January 9, 2009 I bought a pair of open-back Sperzels to use with my Flying V project. They're similarly set up as the Wilkinson, but only require about 1/3 rotation around the post to get to the other hole, and no funky wrapping. Just over the top, turn 1/3 rotation, down through the hole and out the back of the tuner. Removing the strings is pretty easy as well, and the exposed gears look great. I have tried them too. IMO they were good but not great. I think it takes a while to getting used to have the sharp cutoff end of the string on the back of the head. Quote
ihocky2 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Posted January 9, 2009 I've used the Wilkinsons and found no difference between them and a proper job stringing regular tuners. The stringing up of the Wilkinson didn't really seem to bad to me, but they are definitely annoying to un-string. Quote
Kenny Posted January 9, 2009 Report Posted January 9, 2009 i use sperzel trim locks on every guitar i make, i even spent an hour doing an accurate cad model of them logo placement and everything haha anyways yea; they are my tuners of choice its only getting the placment of the pin hole that was tricky at first, but once you got that down they are the way to go Quote
j. pierce Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 I tried the planet waves tuners (with the lock and the auto-cut) on my last build, and I love 'em. Athough they're a bit heavy, and I can imagine on another build it'd be neck-dive city. Quote
WezV Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 i like the planet waves too, very solid. The only slight concerns i had was the amount of pressure it took to cut through the low E string... not loads but with heavier strings it would only get worse... and also, whilst they are great for the player - they are definatly a pain in the arse for the tech Quote
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