Metalhead28 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Posted February 21, 2009 Just curious. I do it for a living, and I've decided that from here on out I'm going to model everything I build and create a nice set of detailed drawings to go by. (I could also offer some services if anyone here is ever in need.) Anyone else do anything of the sort? I've started tonight modeling my next build: Quote
Kammo1 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Posted February 21, 2009 That looks real nice bro but i think that design is a copy of David McNaughts design which he does and that little leprechaun in Las Vegas called Ed Roman does otherwise a nice rendering Quote
westhemann Posted February 21, 2009 Report Posted February 21, 2009 I do it for a living, and I've decided that from here on out I'm going to model everything I build and create a nice set of detailed drawings to go by. (I could also offer some services if anyone here is ever in need.) Well...you have my attention...what are you talking about here?full size schematics with detailed dimensions for everything?Or just a picture? Quote
Metalhead28 Posted February 21, 2009 Author Report Posted February 21, 2009 Yeah, I'm talking about full sized, detailed drawings. I don't have a large format printer at home, though. Quote
Metalhead28 Posted February 21, 2009 Author Report Posted February 21, 2009 That looks real nice bro but i think that design is a copy of David McNaughts design which he does and that little leprechaun in Las Vegas called Ed Roman does otherwise a nice rendering I'm definitely into the Mcnaught guitars, but there is actually quite a bit of difference to the shape, and it's noticably smaller. It's somewhere in between a Mcnaught and a Jackson Soloist. Quote
RoggerCallen Posted February 21, 2009 Report Posted February 21, 2009 Just curious. I do it for a living, and I've decided that from here on out I'm going to model everything I build and create a nice set of detailed drawings to go by. (I could also offer some services if anyone here is ever in need.) Anyone else do anything of the sort? I've started tonight modeling my next build: This is so interesting, do you really do this for a living? Just wondering... -Rogger Quote
westhemann Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 I would be interested in a disk with multiple guitar types on it in a format that could be taken to Kinko's and printed out full sized...sure would save me time and mistakes... I guess what i am saying is that you MIGHT be successful at offering such a service...but more so if you could have them printed out full sized and ship them to buyers in rolled tubes like posters are shipped in...not everyone has the capability to do it...I draw mine by hand and it sucks. Quote
Southpa Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 3D rendering is nice if you are taking it a step further and applying CNC technology. For guitar building I'm happy enough w/ ACAD. I think I have a few drawings still kicking around. I've made lots of templates and printed out different scale lengths, etc. There is nothing like making sure you get some precision, accuracy and symmetry in your work. Quote
Metalhead28 Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 Yeah, I do 3D design for a living, but not guitars...haha. I design tooling for the injection molding industry and a little bit of product design. I actually had in mind small scale stuff that I wouldn't mind doing for free; stuff that's just spun off from what I'm already preparing for myself. (Right now I'm creating a library of all the bridges, hardware, etc., and the machining that they require so that I can rapidly complete designs in the future.) However, something a little more involved does come to mind - If someone can give me a drawing of their shapes, or even an extremely clear head on photograph, I can convert them into 3D models and then add all the machining, etc., based on the construction that you're after. Then I could create custom detailed drawings and provide full scale hard copies. I could do something like that for a modest fee, just enough to make it worth my time and cover the cost of printing. Get with me if anyone's interested. Quote
billm90 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 I make video games (level designer and technical designer) and have made some 3d stuff in 3dmax for some projects. I have never thought about putting a guitar through the program though. tried templating out some out there ideas I had but never saved them. Probably would end up in a post under ugliest guitar... lol I dont think I could stand going through the whole 3d modeling process for a guitar unless I was being paid, or had some ground breaking design. I give you props for your work. I do know what goes into it. I got my GF and A in some business presentaion class for making a 1 off liquid soap bottle and giving her shots from all angles, appearing as a rotating conatiner. I guess it blew the teachers mind as well. Quote
ihocky2 Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 What program did you model that in? I have training in Autodesk Inventor, and would say that I am moderately proficient in it. The company I used to work for is a general steel fab shop, so nothing very intricate. Flat top guitars and bevels and the likes are easy enough, but I have not figured out how to make the carved tops like a PRS or a Les Paul or a Soloist in Inventor yet, or been able to find information on how to do it with Inventor. My current employer has Solidworks which we barely use, but I mess with when I can. I see the basic similarities, but also see the contoured 3d modeling is more developed. So I have to figure out how to do guitars in SolidWorks. If you can point me to any good tutorials on the subject I would appreciate it. Either SolidWorks or Inventor. I prefer Inventor since that is what I have at home. Quote
Metalhead28 Posted February 26, 2009 Author Report Posted February 26, 2009 I use Pro-Engineer. I've used Solidworks some in the past, but I have no experience with Inventor. I don't really know any good tutorial sites.....You could probably hunt down some good books on Amazon. I've pretty much taken this one to completion. The 3D aspect doesn't actually do me that much good since I'm not CNC'ing anything, but since I'm used to working this way it still helps me to visualize everything about the guitar. It's still time well spent in my opinion. I spent more time modeling the Floyd Rose bridge and nut than everything else combined....lol. Here are a couple more shots of this design: Quote
Metalhead28 Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Posted February 28, 2009 I was also able to quickly design a couple of variations, which are inspiring a couple more builds! Quote
PeteBuchan Posted February 28, 2009 Report Posted February 28, 2009 I wouldn't mind seeing some tutorials of how to do carved tops etc on solidworks too. I use solidworks every day at work but tend to use it mainly for designing sub sea equipment and taut wire systems etc. I've wanted to learn how to learn how to do surfacing as I want to start trying to design a car body (to make from fiber glass) as I'm in the process of designing a custom chassis. Anyway, I've got a few of my guitars modelled, and most of the hardware I have lying around but I still haven't a clue how to do carved tops. I'd like to learn! Pete Quote
Metalhead28 Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Posted February 28, 2009 I could describe the general process in Pro-Engineer - which could probably be followed in Solidworks more or less, as long as you know the corresponding commands. Quote
westhemann Posted February 28, 2009 Report Posted February 28, 2009 Does anyone know what I need to open DWG. files...I tried a free download of something,but it won't work. Quote
juze Posted February 28, 2009 Report Posted February 28, 2009 Does anyone know what I need to open DWG. files...I tried a free download of something,but it won't work. I've succesfully opened DWG's and DWF's as well as many others with turbocad professional 15. (Sound quite commercial, but what the heck. ) -Juze aka Ghroath Quote
Southpa Posted February 28, 2009 Report Posted February 28, 2009 http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index...CMP=ILC-DWG-PUV Quote
PeteBuchan Posted February 28, 2009 Report Posted February 28, 2009 I could describe the general process in Pro-Engineer - which could probably be followed in Solidworks more or less, as long as you know the corresponding commands. Sounds good! I know my way around solidworks pretty well, I've just never played about with surfaces but I'm sure I could translate the proengineer method into solidworks format. I'm lead to believe that pro eng is much the same as solidworks these days anyway. When I last used pro eng (5 or 6 years ago at university) it was quite different. Quote
westhemann Posted February 28, 2009 Report Posted February 28, 2009 Kinkos can print out dwg. files,correct? Quote
Metalhead28 Posted March 1, 2009 Author Report Posted March 1, 2009 I could describe the general process in Pro-Engineer - which could probably be followed in Solidworks more or less, as long as you know the corresponding commands. Sounds good! I know my way around solidworks pretty well, I've just never played about with surfaces but I'm sure I could translate the proengineer method into solidworks format. I'm lead to believe that pro eng is much the same as solidworks these days anyway. When I last used pro eng (5 or 6 years ago at university) it was quite different. Give me a little time and I'll backtrack a bit through my last model and make some screenshots / explanations. Quote
Southpa Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 Kinkos can print out dwg. files,correct? Not sure. You'd best phone ahead. For my (and our collective) uses I prefer full scale plots for making templates. I was telling a buddy at work about the scaled down V I was planning and he got me drawings of 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 and full sized 58 and 67 Flying Vs after I emailed him the dwg files! I actually needed the 87.5% size and he promptly got me one . But its nice to know someone who works around this sort of stuff and enjoys doing it! Quote
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