Psychoticsnoman Posted March 1, 2009 Report Posted March 1, 2009 Hey guys, Been looking around for machines lately, I'm set will all the other tools just need help with the Drum Sanders. I'm looking to spend around $900. heres what i was looking at. http://grizzly.com/products/18-1-1-2-HP-Si...um-Sander/G0458 http://grizzly.com/products/16-Drum-Sander...Conveyor/G1079R The first one i read some reviews on and some people said that they have had trouble getting the belts to line up. Some say the second one is better and less likely to jam. What do you guys think?? is there any other ones around the same price range? Thanks In advange guys Quote
Jon Posted March 2, 2009 Report Posted March 2, 2009 Personally, I do not like the rubber conveyor belt on the grizzly sanders. The pressure from the rollers press the wood down too much on the corners, causing uneven corners. This was a serious pita to fix when I would be doing a bulk amount of fingerboards a day. I would recommend a jet / performax 16-32 sander over the Grizzly rubber conveyor drum sanders. The Grizzly sanders have a lot more power / speed, though! Quote
Rick500 Posted March 2, 2009 Report Posted March 2, 2009 I have a Jet 16/32 and really love it. Does what it's supposed to do, does it well, and no problems at all. Quote
DC Ross Posted March 2, 2009 Report Posted March 2, 2009 The one in the first link has an abrasive conveyor belt, not rubber, so there's no way it'll compress. That one's on my ever-growing list. Quote
Woodenspoke Posted March 2, 2009 Report Posted March 2, 2009 I have both the delta 18-36 and the Performax 16 -32 drums (one was a donation, LOL). They both work fine except for end snipe (worse on the Delta). Both of these are similar to the open ended Grizzly. The end snipe can be controlled by running a sacrificial piece right behind your piece. Or make your piece a bit longer. It really depends on what you are doing. Differences aside I would love a closed machine with two rollers, A single pass two grits. However 16" is cutting it close. The rubber belt may be an issue but I have never tried one so I will take the comments here to heart and do some research as well. I love drum sanders, they have made my life easy and my builds faster. The only downside is changing paper. The delta is a bear the Performax not as bad. They may have changed the Delta recently, I thought I saw a blurb somewhere. My two cents Quote
RestorationAD Posted March 2, 2009 Report Posted March 2, 2009 Jet Performax 10 - 20 Great machine ... little too small. Have to plan ahead when doing bodies. Adjusting the table to be able to run one pass and turn the piece and run another was a time consuming effort and has to be checked when I change paper. Works great for small pieces. I would buy it again... but if I had the money I would buy the 16 -32 Quote
Batfink Posted March 2, 2009 Report Posted March 2, 2009 I've got a Jet 10-20 and can't fault it - although i'd perhaps have gone for the 16-32 if i had more room. Quote
erikbojerik Posted March 2, 2009 Report Posted March 2, 2009 Performax 16-32 here - love it. You have to check and tweek the level on the drum if you use it a lot, but it's easy to do. I've personally found more uses for an open-ended sander, like planing the Les Paul neck angle into the body: Quote
RestorationAD Posted March 2, 2009 Report Posted March 2, 2009 Performax 16-32 here - love it. You have to check and tweek the level on the drum if you use it a lot, but it's easy to do. I've personally found more uses for an open-ended sander, like planing the Les Paul neck angle into the body: <highjack> That is one serious piece of wood (looks expensive).... Nice nice nice!!! </highjack> Quote
Rick500 Posted March 2, 2009 Report Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) Hey erik, do you have any trouble with the dust collection shocking the living crap out of you? (I do... I'm just using a shop vac though.) [Edit: Ah, but now I see you have foil tape wrapped around the tubing and presumably grounded.] Edited March 2, 2009 by Rick500 Quote
Woodenspoke Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 I've personally found more uses for an open-ended sander, like planing the Les Paul neck angle into the body: It's nice to see something different.. +1000 Does that come with a 4" dust port, my old 16 -32 Performax has only a 2 1/2" port which I hate as everything in my shop is 4" plus? Quote
Rick500 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 I have the same one as in erik's pics, except it has a Jet sticker on it rather than a Performax sticker. It has a 4" port. Quote
Psychoticsnoman Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Posted March 3, 2009 Thanks alot guys, I'm going to checkout the jet/perfomax 16-32. If anyone else has had experience with these please chime in Quote
Rick500 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 I also looked at Steel City's version of the Jet/Performax 16-32 before I bought my Jet. It's nearly identical except that it has a removable support for the open side. I didn't have a preference for one over the other; just got the Jet because it was on sale and also had a rebate at the time. Quote
Woodenspoke Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 I have the same one as in erik's pics, except it has a Jet sticker on it rather than a Performax sticker. It has a 4" port. Maybe I can buy a new cover. Thanks for the info. Looked at the Grizzly manual and can see it has a small dust port off to the side. The Delta and Performax both have ports directly above the drum. I don't get the need for the rollers on the top. If you are putting through 12' boards you need a bigger machine, LOL Quote
Rick500 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Yeah, I was initially going to get the table extensions, but on the advice of some here, I didn't spend the extra $90. Never regretted it. The table itself is plenty big enough for anything I'm likely to send through the machine. Quote
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