madhattr88 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 U guys think there is enough wood-to-wood contact on a strat to use just glue, no screws? Quote
Claptonfreak Posted March 5, 2009 Report Posted March 5, 2009 U guys think there is enough wood-to-wood contact on a strat to use just glue, no screws? No there is not, Strat necks are loose by nature and some imitators can be even worse. If you wanted to build a strat capable of housing a glue on neck, you would have to get a slightly undersize neck pocket template. Quote
guitar_player Posted March 5, 2009 Report Posted March 5, 2009 It's possible especially if you use dowels instead of bolts if your painting no one will know. But why? If it's a decent fit there will be little to no difference plus you may need to shim the neck or replace it some time. Quote
Mickguard Posted March 5, 2009 Report Posted March 5, 2009 Do a search for 'bolt on to setneck conversion' or similar terms and you'll find several threads that have already discussed this. The upshot (in case you're feeling lazy): Don't bother. Quote
madhattr88 Posted March 5, 2009 Author Report Posted March 5, 2009 U guys think there is enough wood-to-wood contact on a strat to use just glue, no screws? No there is not, Strat necks are loose by nature and some imitators can be even worse. If you wanted to build a strat capable of housing a glue on neck, you would have to get a slightly undersize neck pocket template. let me rephrase my question. i'm building everything from scratch and want to use a fender-strat style neck joint without the bolts (just glue) if the neck fits nice and snug, can i just glue it or do u think it will break loose??? Quote
RDub Posted March 5, 2009 Report Posted March 5, 2009 if you're building from scratch, I don't think it should be to hard to redesign it to be a set neck with a mortise and tenon joint. What are you trying to achieve by trying to glue a regular strat joint? Quote
madhattr88 Posted March 5, 2009 Author Report Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) if you're building from scratch, I don't think it should be to hard to redesign it to be a set neck with a mortise and tenon joint. What are you trying to achieve by trying to glue a regular strat joint? i attached some pics of the pocket ... i only want to use glue. the neck meets the body @ the 16th fret. think it will be strong enough? Edited March 5, 2009 by madhattr88 Quote
WezV Posted March 5, 2009 Report Posted March 5, 2009 you can do it that way just fine if you are making it a nice tight join most would make the heel deeper into the body... then you just have a full width tenon like any Les paul junior single cut or PRS style guitar the drawing looks good to me Quote
madhattr88 Posted March 5, 2009 Author Report Posted March 5, 2009 you can do it that way just fine if you are making it a nice tight join most would make the heel deeper into the body... then you just have a full width tenon like any Les paul junior single cut or PRS style guitar the drawing looks good to me yes...as tight as i can get it. as for your other comment, do u mean by extending the neck to go below the neck pick-up? however, i am not installing a neck pick-up. Quote
WezV Posted March 5, 2009 Report Posted March 5, 2009 nope, i mean the 1.135" measurement you have marked on your diagram... thats a lot deeper than a strat neck pocket you can extend it under the neck pickup when doing double cutaway shapes but there is really no need on a single cut like this the negative replies you received referred to the idea of getting a strat neck and a strat body and glueing them together as thats what your intial post implied- that is a really bad idea what you are actually proposing is very different and if you look through the in progress section you will see its the way a lot of people are doing set-necks Quote
madhattr88 Posted March 5, 2009 Author Report Posted March 5, 2009 nope, i mean the 1.135" measurement you have marked on your diagram... thats a lot deeper than a strat neck pocket you can extend it under the neck pickup when doing double cutaway shapes but there is really no need on a single cut like this the negative replies you received referred to the idea of getting a strat neck and a strat body and glueing them together as thats what your intial post implied- that is a really bad idea what you are actually proposing is very different and if you look through the in progress section you will see its the way a lot of people are doing set-necks thanks man! i really appreciate it. i wanted to try a "heel" of some sort, that's why i went pretty deep on the pocket. i'm partial to the PRS singlecut joint look, but i know they run their neck under the neck PUP. I didn't want to do that, but wanted to make sure the joint would be strong enough with just glue. ...and you answered my question so i'll stop rambling on.. : ) thanks again!!!!!! Quote
WezV Posted March 5, 2009 Report Posted March 5, 2009 i'm partial to the PRS singlecut joint look, but i know they run their neck under the neck PUP. dont forget they designed the other shape first and thats how they are set up to build them.. the neck join on a singlecut PRS doesnt need to go into the pickup cavity but it also does no harm (you could argue for slight tonal improvements and a slightly more stable neck join) and means they dont need to alter the way the necks are made too much. Quote
madhattr88 Posted March 6, 2009 Author Report Posted March 6, 2009 i'm partial to the PRS singlecut joint look, but i know they run their neck under the neck PUP. dont forget they designed the other shape first and thats how they are set up to build them.. the neck join on a singlecut PRS doesnt need to go into the pickup cavity but it also does no harm (you could argue for slight tonal improvements and a slightly more stable neck join) and means they dont need to alter the way the necks are made too much. Good point. Their double cut came first. Quote
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