Ad_Astra Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 So, this it what I've been doing at work for two days now. It's gonna be an Ibanez RG style, three piece body, and a Les Paul style bridge with two humbuckers. 22-24 frets, don't know yet. I don't even know if I dare to start building the neck from scratch as well. Body (two pieces of birch and one piece of cherry): With my Jem neck attached to: AANJ: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 (edited) very nice i have been wanting a hardtail RG for a while now. I wanted to trade my rg270dx for the rg321 but i tested a 321 yesterday and damn did it ever feel like crap compared to my 270. Interesting because mine is an older model (96-99) made in korea and the new 321 in made in Indonesia Anyway, great looking build Edited March 14, 2009 by slay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad_Astra Posted March 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 very nice i have been wanting a hardtail RG for a while now. I wanted to trade my rg270dx for the rg321 but i tested a 321 yesterday and damn did it ever feel like crap compared to my 270. Interesting because mine is an older model (96-99) made in korea and the new 321 in made in Indonesia Anyway, great looking build Thanks! This is actually the first one I've ever started to build from scratch. And I've used a router only once before today. I'm quite pleased with the pickup cavities, though they're a little sloppy. But there'll be pickup rings, so the bad places won't be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wood is good Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Is a TOM really considered a hardtail? I always considered a hardtail a strat non trem bridge. Anyway, It will be really hard building a neck around a body that already has a neck pocket routed. Why did you rout it already, when you dont even have the neck ready? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad_Astra Posted March 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Is a TOM really considered a hardtail? I always considered a hardtail a strat non trem bridge. Anyway, It will be really hard building a neck around a body that already has a neck pocket routed. Why did you rout it already, when you dont even have the neck ready? Because I'll do the neck to be an exact copy of an Ibanez neck. So no worries. First I add the neck and then measure the distance to get the bridge in the right place. No idea about how I SHOULD do everything. This is my first attempt, as I said =) Some attempts with hardware. Hardware will be black, white/black pickups and knobs too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Efilnickufesin Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Is a TOM really considered a hardtail? I always considered a hardtail a strat non trem bridge. Anyway, It will be really hard building a neck around a body that already has a neck pocket routed. Why did you rout it already, when you dont even have the neck ready? A hard tail is any bridge that is not a tremolo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Moikka, Ad Astra! Nice build. Have you factored in the required neck angle for the TOM bridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ae3 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Neck angle = very important!!!!! Have you considered going a string thru instead of a stop tailpeice? IMO it looks better on every thing except a Les Paul. Nice work though, the AANJ's are very easy to play on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 That baby's beggin' for a Floyd. Great looking build so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sami Ghouri Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 can't he simply recess the TOM? i mean isn't that easier than the neck angle? which has always scared me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ae3 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 You can just cut a shim for neck angle. And because it's bolt-on you can try as many times as you like to get it right. Recessing TOM requires an extra teplate, and IMO higher bridges play better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 I agree about the higher bridges bit. It lends something to the style of instrument and the playability....my EXPs are definitely different animals to my Sabre for example. He says, building a Sabre with a TOM :-D The string tension over a TOM bridge lends a greater degree of string-to-body coupling, and some would extend that to say tone or sustain. It definitely adds solidity, that's for sure. Recessing is a perfectly valid build technique, and doesn't require much work - two Forstner'ed holes either side and a routed trench connecting them both. A 1/2" diameter router bit can drop an ABR-1 width bridge by 6-8mm over "normal mounting" before the adjustment screws foul the body. A Nashville TOM needs a little more - around the 15mm mark - which can be done purely by routing. Anyway. Enough of this technical malarkey. Bolt-on shimming is a good point, but you're verging on opening that whole can of worms about neck to body coupling....I prefer to do the work in getting the neck angle right from the outset so the flat face of the heel has maximum contact area with the corresponding face of the pocket. Not always the simplest of things to work out and implement correctly in one attempt, but one worthwhile step nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmth Builder Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Having just got a guitar with a high TOM I can say I prefer the recessed one on my build, I like playing closer to the body give your hand something to rest on *is use to the most comfortable Ibanez trems to rest on* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Exactly why I like my Sabre with the Edge trem in there. It's blocked off, so is essentially now a fine-tuneable hardtail. There's something to be said about TOMs and chunky rhythm playing however! I'll play either. It's all guitarish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Prostheta Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Hyvä, Ad Astra! I like the mix of black and gold hardware (musta ja kulta?). (practicing my Finnish!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StormLeader Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'm normally a solid color guy, but that guitar looks amazing! That maple neck really flows with the rest of the Guitar, Great job! -Stormy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad_Astra Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'm normally a solid color guy, but that guitar looks amazing! That maple neck really flows with the rest of the Guitar, Great job! -Stormy Thanks! Let's hope everything goes well with the trussrod and frets.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorgo Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 great job!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ae3 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Nice use of the black and gold hardware, tis very effective indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I have to ask about the inlays...did you do them yourself? The corners on the pyramids look almost as though they were started with a 2-3mm drill bit and then joined "dot to dot" to form the shapes. Other than that, it's a great build for sure! I do like neck-through guitars with TOM bridges :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmrentis Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 I was going to ask the same question as I noticed on the last half of the inlays they have those round corners, which would lead me to the same guess that Prostheta mentioned, just wondering if someone selling pre-inlaid boards did that or not. Looks alright, on ebony it would probably be invisible, but maple shows the smallest of gaps so they are easily noticed. As already said though, great looking build, very clean, cool choices on woods, nice job all the way around. Really like the hardware choices for the woods used, really comes together really well. Should be a great player.Nice work. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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