Speedy McFeely Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 dude, not to knock you, but you have no idea about string tension. if stiffer strings were not condusive to fas playing, how did SRV play any of the fast stuff he played, and don't say he couldn't or didn't play fast, because he did. string tension is determined by the gauge of the string also, not necassarily the tuning. so i compansate by a smaller low E. the other reason i put a .050 up top is becuase i like a looser trem. most 7 strings use a .056 on bottom, but because i use a higher, not lower string it affects the trem movement. so instead of a top heavy standard tuning, i let a little give in the bottom to utilize the trem more. why do you think a high A string would be for high fast solo's only. i like the versitility i get with the altered tuning. i can play more of a separated pitch melody and get different harmonies with the other guitar player in the band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nordic Gawd Posted December 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 why do you think i want to build an 8 string if i only thought it was for high fast playing. i didn't mean to diss you. I would love an extra string on both sides. I play jazz a lot and i would love to play easier with the piano. The piano easily gets up there where as its much more difficult with a guitar. you said that you on your 7 string tuning a .9 gauge e string to an A would make it stiff. would it not? and tuning lets say .12 gauge B string to an e would not make it tight and stiff? i might be wrong but it just doesnt make sense to me. i did not mean to crash you at all speedy you help me a lot. and thank you for everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nordic Gawd Posted December 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 how would the strings sound together open???? i just realized they could sound like crap depending on how you tune them with chords! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy McFeely Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 in theory what you say makes sence. how ever, it may have a higher tension, but with the lighter bass string, it compansates with a floating trem. you may be correct on a stop tail, i wish i had one to make a comparison. i don't think it would hinder playing too much though. i might be used to it. i don't want you to think i'm slamming you, i'm not. i'm just not too eloquint in my writing. my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 String tension/gauge has less to do with being able to play fast on a guitar than proper set-up. There are fast players that string their guitars with 12's or 13's. Think of acoustic players... smokin' with 12's man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nordic Gawd Posted December 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 thanks for clarifying. my guitar is a stop tail POS sso i didnt have a floating trem to compare to. by floating you mean like a floyd right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YDoesGodMockMeSo Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 if people wanna hear 8strings...listen to some Meshugga. I believe they use the Conklin guitars linked to in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nordic Gawd Posted December 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 ill check them out my friend likes them and has a few cds of theirs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 floating bridges can be any trem bridge, not just a floyd, but does include a floyd, i also found it easier to set up my C tuning on a floyd guitar, that's kinda odd, i'll be moving that tunning over to a hardtail soon though so it'll be interesting to see how that goes, i guess i just haven't figured out the laymen's physics behind it yet.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12b345b67 Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 my 7 string rg, is tuned to high a. i like it better than low b. i have no problems with string breakage, because it's a .009. i just use a standard set of 9-42's, then i buy a single .050. some times a .048. meshugga plays 8 strings, tuned low b to high a. wrong, they use another low string. F# to E that is. then they tune down one half step as well, so its F to Eb really. listen to their last cd Nothing. that's the only one of their cds with 8 str. hence, many of the songs are i F. merry christmas and happy new year!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nordic Gawd Posted December 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 i like the idea of having 1 high and one low. It'll make everything so much easier. no more reaching up on super high frets to make the piano. oh good lord yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 on the string tension thing.... i think the floyd may be slacker feeling because when you bend the string the trem moves as well, the TOM bridge wont budge. btw Vai did try a 7 string with high A, but claimed it broke too often so used the low B. i had a design for an 8 string i drew on CAD, but i think ill stick to 6 strings atm! i wouldnt mind a 7 or 8 stringer sometime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkyboy777 Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 if people wanna hear 8strings...listen to some Meshugga. I believe they use the Conklin guitars linked to in this thread. I think they use Nevborn guitars...interesting site to check out. http://www.nevbornguitars.com/ Here is a link for the pickups that they use: http://www.lundgren.se/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nordic Gawd Posted December 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 thanks for the link to the p/us but i dont know how to read german! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkyboy777 Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 thanks for the link to the p/us but i dont know how to read german! I can't either, but it is a start. Apparently there have been a few people get their hands on these pickups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nordic Gawd Posted December 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 lol do they speak german? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 i doubt i would ever play an 8 string....it is all i can do to stay good with 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nordic Gawd Posted December 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 the 8 suits me almost perfectly for my jazz. perfectly suitable for metal but i like jazz. plus i can incorporate some slap funk in thar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nordic Gawd Posted December 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 I'll just need to make the neck... really, really, thin in order to reach the bottom string properly. oh god i shudder just thinking about trying to play some nice bassey riffs on the bottom few strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12b345b67 Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 ROFL!! german?? that's swedish dude! anyways, they're well known here and from what ive heard, they sound very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syxxstring Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Here's a bc rich. Not sure how its strung by the pics though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 ROFL!! german?? that's swedish dude! anyways, they're well known here and from what ive heard, they sound very good. mind translating some of the descriptions? i couldn't find an online swedish->english translator that worked anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nordic Gawd Posted December 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 yeah and i didnt even get near the 8 string page. Do the 8 strings come in hum/single and are they production or are they custom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott D. Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 I dont know if anyone posted this, but the band Meshuggah uses 8 string guitars, and low tuned 7 strings. when they are playing it sounds like when u take a regular 6 string put 9's on it, and tune it to low-g tuning LOL. It amuses me how you have to downtune your guitar that much to make it "death metal". I mean come on. I play in E tuning, so, its all in your skill level . Heh... I sound like such a jackass lol. Oh well. - Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 i also play metal in E.it just sounds better to me,although i don't mind the occasional e flat or d.anything lower than that doesn't really do it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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