xfriendsonfirex Posted April 17, 2010 Report Posted April 17, 2010 So, this will probably seem stupid to many of you, but maybe someone can provide me with a solution. I just assembled a guitar with a new Strat-style tremolo bridge, using the six seperate saddles, each using two height screws. However, to get the action low enough, I had to back these screws out a good amount. Now, anytime I palm mute anything, these painful sharp screws are stabbing into the back of my hand! I've encountered this before at the shop I work at, but I have never given it much thought. Is there an easy solution to this? Thanks! Quote
Bionic Dave Posted April 17, 2010 Report Posted April 17, 2010 Use shorter screws. Walla it's that easy. Or raise the neck so the fingerboard is higher then raise the saddles. Quote
B. Aaron Posted April 17, 2010 Report Posted April 17, 2010 Throw a business card shim (or something similar) into the heel end of the neck pocket to give it a bit of a neck angle, and then you'll need to raise the action a little bit at the bridge and voila, less set-screw will be jabbing your palm. Quote
low end fuzz Posted April 17, 2010 Report Posted April 17, 2010 buzz down the bottoms of the screws Quote
Tim37 Posted April 17, 2010 Report Posted April 17, 2010 Throw a business card shim (or something similar) into the heel end of the neck pocket to give it a bit of a neck angle, and then you'll need to raise the action a little bit at the bridge and voila, less set-screw will be jabbing your palm. i had to do the same on one of my fenders btw it doesnt take much a piece of 400 grit sandpaper did the trick for me. Quote
ShadesOfGrey Posted April 18, 2010 Report Posted April 18, 2010 Use shorter screws. Walla it's that easy. buzz down the bottoms of the screws I second those suggestions. Either get shorter screws or shorten the ones you already have. i had to do the same on one of my fenders btw it doesnt take much a piece of 400 grit sandpaper did the trick for me. Sandpaper seems a bit more work than neccesary to me. I'd start with cutting of some length with a good cutting plier or other cutting tool and file down the remainer / sharp bits. Offcoarse, you need good cutters that work for metal / steel, otherwise you'd just dull / chip your tools. Quote
Tim37 Posted April 18, 2010 Report Posted April 18, 2010 i was refering to using it as a shim. i tried several diffent things and it just worked out that a piece of 400 girt sand paper was the right thickness to angle the neck out enough so i didnt have thos screws sticking out. Quote
B. Aaron Posted April 18, 2010 Report Posted April 18, 2010 i was refering to using it as a shim. i tried several diffent things and it just worked out that a piece of 400 girt sand paper was the right thickness to angle the neck out enough so i didnt have thos screws sticking out. Haha! Nice. I think the best reason to go with a shim instead of grinding down screws is that a shim can be removed later, but ground-down screws can't be built back up: they have to be replaced. Quote
ShadesOfGrey Posted April 18, 2010 Report Posted April 18, 2010 i was refering to using it as a shim. i tried several diffent things and it just worked out that a piece of 400 girt sand paper was the right thickness to angle the neck out enough so i didnt have thos screws sticking out. oops, my bad.. I was a bit too eager to reply I guess Quote
xfriendsonfirex Posted April 18, 2010 Author Report Posted April 18, 2010 Thanks for the help. I will probably try buzzing down the bottom of the screws. I can't shim the neck, because the guitar is a one piece. It's only the bridge that has any resemblance to a Strat. If I found some shorter screws, are they sure to fit? Is the threading used in the saddles a universal size? Quote
Samba Pa Ti Posted April 19, 2010 Report Posted April 19, 2010 ive had this issue on an old guitar i own, simple fix is not to touch the bridge when playing.... i know that sounds sarcastic but im serious, i just changed playing style for that guitar. Quote
low end fuzz Posted April 19, 2010 Report Posted April 19, 2010 i dont beleive you should ever change your style for an instrument; at least your bread and butter instrument; if anything i would shop for an insrument that suited my style perfectly; thats like sayin to go to a gym so you can play a 50lb bass Quote
Samba Pa Ti Posted April 19, 2010 Report Posted April 19, 2010 i dont beleive you should ever change your style for an instrument; at least your bread and butter instrument; if anything i would shop for an insrument that suited my style perfectly; thats like sayin to go to a gym so you can play a 50lb bass well it depends, ive got a lot of guitars, and i dont wanna ruin (or alter) this guitar (its an old strat) because its got tall saddle screws, i just avoid them : ) if the OP's guitar isnt important or original then its not much fuss to cut the screws down a bit. Quote
DC Ross Posted April 20, 2010 Report Posted April 20, 2010 Just replace them with shorter screws. Dunno what the big deal is... Quote
ShadesOfGrey Posted April 20, 2010 Report Posted April 20, 2010 i dont beleive you should ever change your style for an instrument; at least your bread and butter instrument; if anything i would shop for an insrument that suited my style perfectly; thats like sayin to go to a gym so you can play a 50lb bass well it depends, ive got a lot of guitars, and i dont wanna ruin (or alter) this guitar (its an old strat) because its got tall saddle screws, i just avoid them : ) if the OP's guitar isnt important or original then its not much fuss to cut the screws down a bit. Going by the OP's post, the guitar is either a new build or he already altered the guitar by installing a new bridge Still, I dont see how altering / changing a few screws could be seen as altering or ruining an instrument. Unless it's a vintage instrument offcoarse.. (what was that site with $1000 screws and $10000 pickguards? ) Quote
low end fuzz Posted April 20, 2010 Report Posted April 20, 2010 no, it doesent affect the vintage-ness of it; its a screw; and they need to be changed to keep your instrument in optimal working condition; when a turn signal dies on a vintage car do you stop making lefts? Quote
Bionic Dave Posted April 20, 2010 Report Posted April 20, 2010 no, it doesent affect the vintage-ness of it; its a screw; and they need to be changed to keep your instrument in optimal working condition; when a turn signal dies on a vintage car do you stop making lefts? :D Yep I go past the light I want to turn left at then make 3 rights gets me back on track every time. Not so good on gas though. B) Quote
xfriendsonfirex Posted April 21, 2010 Author Report Posted April 21, 2010 Ahahaha. This thread has become ridiculous. After regaining steady breathing... Thanks for the suggestions. I've tried just palm muting a little farther from the bridge, but it just doesn't give me that loose chaotic chord I want with heavy distortion. I used a dremel to work the screws down, and it works amazing! Quote
ShadesOfGrey Posted April 21, 2010 Report Posted April 21, 2010 no, it doesent affect the vintage-ness of it; its a screw; and they need to be changed to keep your instrument in optimal working condition; when a turn signal dies on a vintage car do you stop making lefts? I think the kind of people paying so much $$$ for screws and pickguards are also the kind of people who would never actualy *drive* a vintage car. Collectors basically, putting that guitar in a glass cage. Quote
WezV Posted April 21, 2010 Report Posted April 21, 2010 i think if you have one or two guitars to alter it makes sense to cut down the screws to size or shim the neck.. takes a few minutes and you are good to go without having to spend anything. If you do regular work on guitars it makes sense to keep a stock of a few different sizes - because they do come in different lengths for this very reason! buy a few different sets to be able to mix and match 1/4, 3/8 & 5/16 http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/screws_bridge.htm if its a vintage guitar for a regular player/gigging guitarist i would buy some the right length, replace the ones that are their and keep the original somewhere safe. If its a vintage guitar for a collector then the originals stay where they are and they work around it Quote
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