killemall8 Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 John - you know I aint makin assumptions but... ( theres always a but ) did you make your templates or by them? The top horn looks too fat or too short or something. Compared to a 2nd Gen RRV , its out of proportion pretty good. I still dig it , it just looks a little stumpy. I got the template from a fellow PGer - Killemall. I got the Gibson V from him as well. If it's out a bit, oh well. Maybe it's a 1st gen RRV. I thought we all knew that was the original rhoads shape??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juntunen Guitars Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Did you do the inlays free hand with a dremel or did you use a template? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 John - you know I aint makin assumptions but... ( theres always a but ) did you make your templates or by them? The top horn looks too fat or too short or something. Compared to a 2nd Gen RRV , its out of proportion pretty good. I still dig it , it just looks a little stumpy. I got the template from a fellow PGer - Killemall. I got the Gibson V from him as well. If it's out a bit, oh well. Maybe it's a 1st gen RRV. I thought we all knew that was the original rhoads shape??? I think I did know that , it just don't look quite long enough , but again , it's probably more to do with color/lack of pinstripes/camera angle thats tricking my eye.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted July 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Did you do the inlays free hand with a dremel or did you use a template? No templates. I traced the outline with a sharp pencil, scored the inside of the lines as deeply as I could with an X-Acto knife, "hogged out" the majority of the material with a 1/16" bit in the laminate trim router, got close to the corners with the Dremel, then sharpened the corners & finessed the fit with the X-Acto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Zeb: FWIW, I don't plan on EVER making my own necks. There are just too many things that can seriously go wrong unless you're extremely meticulous with detail & measurement, which I'm not. I'll be happy as a lark buying them and doing my own inlay work and maybe shaping the headstock. Hey, what a difference a few years makes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 yep Landing a Stew-Mac miter box, fretting template, and fret saw for $100 on eBay was what really made it all possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted July 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Fretboard radiused, buffed to 4000, soaked in linseed oil, fretted (but not dressed), and side dots I mentioned right off the bat that I was going to paint this one purple. Inspiration hit me when I went into an automotive store on a whim, looking for the right shade of purple. I'm sure I've heard some of y'all yammering on about Dupli-Color and automotive paint, but I honestly never paid any attention. The conversation always centered around spraying, and since I can't do that, there was no point in it for me. I saw this shade of metallic purple and I knew this Rhoads needed to be this color. In order for the colored metallic to really pop, the surface needed to have a chrome or chrome-like cast first. Fortunately, the can on the left is for just such a purpose. The directions said it'd work plastics & metal, so I dropped the $8/can and experimented on some scrap maple. It turned out OK, and there were no issues with the water-based poly I'll be putting over the top, so I'm all good to go. It looks pretty dang cool as-is. I'm looking forward to getting the purple on it this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormLeader Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Hahhaha, this is going to be really awesome. Keep it up! -Stormy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 The color is looking a bit blotchy at this point. IDK if it's uneven coverage, weird lighting, or what. I'm not done messing with it yet, so there are no worries for me at this point. I'll probably be getting another can of paint. The neck is nowhere near the final product, but it's a dang sight closer than it was two days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 I like the back of that neck! Nice stripes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihocky2 Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 I also like the back of the neck. As for the blotchiness, it looks like uneven coverage. Candy colors are tought to spray in the first place because they show dark and light spots from uneven coverage. Spraying candys from a rattle can is even tougher because you do not get as even of a flow from the nozzle. Nor do you get as nice of a spray pattern or as much material for more even passes. I only did my first guitar with candys from a rattle can and it look about the same as yours. That was the last time I did candys from a spray can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday_luthier Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 I find that metallic paint from a spray can is best applied with quick, random gestures that lightly cover the entire surface of the guitar at once, keep going until it's all covered with paint. I find it works a LOT better this way than if you try spraying slow, successive lines accross the guitar, as you would normally do. Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 I think I finally have it looking pretty good. Once I'm positive, I'll post some pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 I know it looks on the pink side, but believe me - it's metallic purple. All it took was another couple of coats of paint and it all evened out nicely. I'm brushing on 5 coats of water-based poly, then letting it cure for a couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormLeader Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Hahahah, I was like "Man, how\why did he get the grain to show through like that?" Then I realized that it was the siding of the house. Looking good! -Stormy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juntunen Guitars Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Hahahah, I was like "Man, how\why did he get the grain to show through like that?" Then I realized that it was the siding of the house. Looking good! -Stormy Me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted September 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 I started the leveling/buffing process this week. I hope to be through it all sometime this afternoon. I'm working on the purple Rhoads at the same time. I'm also trying something different, which is taking absolutely forever, but I'm hoping the results will be worth the extra effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblaty Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 I'm working on the purple Rhoads at the same time. You ment Firebird right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted September 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 I'm working on the purple Rhoads at the same time. You ment Firebird right? yea the dangers of cut & paste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted September 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 The finish ended up looking like crap. The paint and color is fantastic.... the clear coat is horrible. I need to look at it for a few days and think about it. I might end up having to sand back and start over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted September 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 I'm gonna try and sand back the finish from the front & back and hope I can minimize the amount of paint removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted September 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Well, at least the neck turned out exactly like it was supposed to! A good soaking with linseed oil does wonders for the color and feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted September 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Now, on to the body.... Like I said - worst finish I've ever done. Ripply... like water. Just to stress the point, here's a couple of pics after "highlighting" toe tops of the ripples with 220 on an orbital sander. And here it is after getting the swirlies out with 320. Despite how it looks now, I applied no ore pressure than the weight of by hand. I feel fortunate that I managed to NOT sand through anywhere when taking the ripples out. I'm curious how much clear is left at this point. Well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! Tomorrow I'll get after it with some wet 400 & 600. If I'm feeling ambitious, I might even buff it all the way out. It all depends on how mich time I have between shifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 As long as you don't go deeper than the lowest dimple you should have plenty of clear left.....That sounds like I'm stating the obvious . Ths pics don't look like the clear was pulling away and leaving fisheyes. It just looks like you've got more leveling to do than you're used to. So, I hope that wasn't the new process you were speaking of.... SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted September 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 So, I hope that wasn't the new process you were speaking of.... No, thankfully! I was trying leveling it by hand with 320 instead of 220 on the orbital sander. Clearly, it didn't work out anywhere near what I was looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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